Probably not a one.
Turkey prouds itself on being progressive.
You will find a lot more of that fundamentalist poop going on elseweere...
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Probably not a one.
Turkey prouds itself on being progressive.
You will find a lot more of that fundamentalist poop going on elseweere...
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
lets hope it spreads like fire.
problem is, the progressive type of islam is dying, and the hard liners are the ones gaining ground
problem is, the progressive type of islam is dying, and the hard liners are the ones gaining ground
Blade96
Senior Master
i just posted it to show that not all muslims believe in honor killings and stuff.
RandomPhantom700
Master of Arts
So therefore kill all Muslims? Even though you just acknowledged that there is a "progressive type" that opposes the hard-liners? I'm not going to argue whether the Koran (Que'ran?) is violent or hateful, because I honestly don't know a whole lot about its content. But I will point out that, from reading this thread and others in which you've written on the subject, that your position just doesn't make sense.
"If I'm of the opinion that Islam is dangerous because it's a primitive, male-dominated, bloodthirsty, oppressive religion, it does not make me racist or a hater. Islam is not a race. It is a dangerous machine built upon a foundational document (the Qur'an) which calls for the extermination of all who do not believe."
I read this earlier and it kinda made me think about how it almost doesn't matter what one muslim does or what another does or says. Like most religions, they all follow texts that preach hate.
Like Christianity. There are many good people, and there are also guys like Fred Phelps. The problem though is they both look to the same hateful book for inspiration. Both the Quran and the bible say things like," Kill non believers, kill homosexuals, kill ........" I just don't respect those views. And when someone tells me they think they are the words of a god, it makes me nervous. I'm a non-believer. Are they gonna kill me ?
I read this earlier and it kinda made me think about how it almost doesn't matter what one muslim does or what another does or says. Like most religions, they all follow texts that preach hate.
Like Christianity. There are many good people, and there are also guys like Fred Phelps. The problem though is they both look to the same hateful book for inspiration. Both the Quran and the bible say things like," Kill non believers, kill homosexuals, kill ........" I just don't respect those views. And when someone tells me they think they are the words of a god, it makes me nervous. I'm a non-believer. Are they gonna kill me ?
Don't you just love the us against them mentality?
Yes. That mentality is very prevalent among them.
Obviously, the 'them' to whom ToD was referring that have the "us against them mentality".
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
have i said to kill all of them? or for that matter to kill anyone?
NO
then that was a silly, wasted question
my position makes perfect sense. the book is evil, written by an evil man, and anyone that follows the evil book is showing questionable judgement. And cannot be trusted. Sure they are most likely just fine, but maybe they are not.
Hating them is the first step in dehumanizing them, so that you might kill them. The question I have is why are you publicly trying to stir more distrust and hate?
Sean
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
I am stating MY opinion, not trying to convert people.
you are projecting
you are projecting
No, I was asking a question. You must be projecting that I'm projecting.
Sean
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
your Jedi powers wont work on me, I know these are the droids I was looking for dammit!
Blade96
Senior Master
To whoever neg repped me for this:
'Ignorance becomes me?' How was I ignorant? You can read what he wrote for yourself.
RandomPhantom700
Master of Arts
Twin Fist said:
Forgive me for connecting the dots here, but does it still sound silly?
He doesn't want to kill muslims. Twin Fist just seems to think that humanity would be better off without Islam. I happen to think he is correct. Along with all other 'pseudosciences'. Homo sapiens would be better off. If it wasn't for religion, we'd be exploring the galaxy by now and living to be 200 years old.
Unless he proposes a plan like PETA and HSUS for our domestic animals - you know, spaying and neutering so breeding seizes So within one generations, blah blah blah...
'needing to be erased from the earth' is verbage taken straight from Adolf the Unneccessary's bestseller.
I do agree with you that religion is a limiting factor for mankind. But since we don't have the brain power to rise above it, we might as well use it to limit our numbers...
But seriously, calling for 1/4 of the world population to be erased from the earth because you don't like the book they read from (and a fraction of those billions of people misinterpret) is sickening and bigotted.
The way to erase ignorance is with education and understanding. Weapons just breed more ignorance. Ignorance needs to be erased, not people.
