I can only make the rising, sinking, spearing, and side elbows works. I'm usually not in the position (by choice) to even try to attempt a backward elbow. I figure that if I'm in that position then something went awfully wrong in my plan. If I was ever in that position then my plan would most likely consist of me slipping out of a grab turning sides just enough to where I can land a side elbow or rising one and then follow up with something else as I continue to escape the grip.
I've actually heard variations of both of those many many times lol
Not as a single shot, and not a straight thrust, no, but as part of a combo. It was a wide arc spin to the back side.
Walked into the men's room at a concert. Entering, there's a mirror on the opposite wall. I saw a Johnny Winter looking guy [young Johnny Winter] following me in and grabbing the back of my collar. I had seen him when we first all got out of our car fifteen minutes earlier and thought he was sizing me up for a robbery.
As he grabs my collar I spun and elbowed the side of his head, wrapped him in a headlock and threw him - a couple seconds later three pistols were shoved in my head with three guys screaming POLICE as they threw me on the floor. Johnny Winter was an undercover cop on the drug squad. Swell.
I got taken to the station house. This was long before I was ever thought about being a cop. He came in twenty minutes later. Man, he had an egg on the side of his head the size of a golf ball. From my elbow. And I was in trouble.
But it was a corker of an elbow.
We’re you in trouble because you unknowingly hit a police officer while thinking you were about to be mugged, or for other...reasons...?Not as a single shot, and not a straight thrust, no, but as part of a combo. It was a wide arc spin to the back side.
Walked into the men's room at a concert. Entering, there's a mirror on the opposite wall. I saw a Johnny Winter looking guy [young Johnny Winter] following me in and grabbing the back of my collar. I had seen him when we first all got out of our car fifteen minutes earlier and thought he was sizing me up for a robbery.
As he grabs my collar I spun and elbowed the side of his head, wrapped him in a headlock and threw him - a couple seconds later three pistols were shoved in my head with three guys screaming POLICE as they threw me on the floor. Johnny Winter was an undercover cop on the drug squad. Swell.
I got taken to the station house. This was long before I was ever thought about being a cop. He came in twenty minutes later. Man, he had an egg on the side of his head the size of a golf ball. From my elbow. And I was in trouble.
But it was a corker of an elbow.
Oh, I've delivered myself quite a lot of pain from the shin - it's one of the most pain-sensitive areas of the lower body. Fair number of nerves and no cushion. The issue is that adrenal load dulls pain perception, and some people have inherently (or developed) pain tolerance, whether local or generalized, that makes pain compliance not work reliably on them.
When I played soccer, my shins (and knees - I played in goal a lot) were pretty insensitive to pain. I can't remember ever really reacting to coffee table knocks back then, but those damned things can sit me down hard now.
Yeah, I've always viewed a rear elbow strike as something to buy time, make space, change the target, or change structure a bit. It's not really likely to serve as a control move unless it's one like Buka mentioned, and that's closer to a spinning elbow in its mechanics.
