Limb Destruction
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Shai Hulud
Purple Belt
Speed and good sense of timing required. 
Fighters who know what they're doing immediately retract any outstretched limbs following a strike to keep things like this from happening.
Fighters who know what they're doing immediately retract any outstretched limbs following a strike to keep things like this from happening.
Seems very similar to what is taught in most FMA classes. Destroy what is closed to you to get to your target
So is this generally taught in WC?
So is this generally taught in WC?
Shai Hulud
Purple Belt
Filipino Dirty Boxing?
It's basically a gaun sau
Attachments
not really most Filipino arts teach one to destruct the nearest object eliminating that limb from the equation
--which can hurt like a son of a b... !
True. And I'd agree that the way this was demonstrated looked a lot like FMA. I teach both Wing Chun and Eskrima and like many have observed before, there is considerable overlap.
Compared to some styles of FMA, WC puts very strong emphasis on efficiency and directness. We would never try for limb-destruction when we could hit directly to the core. But sometimes you can't get that direct shot. Also sometimes you can injure a limb as you attack the core, as in Yak's example of gaun-da sau. Essentially that's what's going on here too.
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futsaowingchun
Black Belt
Then I guess arts like BJJ,Judo,wrestling would ever work against someone who retract their limbs.Speed and good sense of timing required.
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futsaowingchun
Black Belt
This is what was taught to me,I can't speak for all wc lineages.
Vajramusti
Master Black Belt
You can do much with a very compliant partner in videos
Anyone whos wrestled will tell you guys who keep the arms and elbows in and move are a pain to go against. When you need to reach, you tend to put yourself at a disadvantage
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Shai Hulud
Purple Belt
Retracting your limbs is a way of shaking off an opponents grip in Judo. It's all in the timing and anticipating movement.
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futsaowingchun
Black Belt
Maybe I should do it for real in real time Dumbass..
Danny T
Senior Master
What prevents him from striking you in the chest or face with the opposite hand in this demonstration?
I understand striking the tsubo point however when done as in this demo you have just committed both hands/arm to one limb and his opposite hand is completely free as well as your hand on that side is committed and low. Why not Jum on the tsubo point and strike with the opposite arm? That will also put an object in the way of any strike with the free arm.
I understand striking the tsubo point however when done as in this demo you have just committed both hands/arm to one limb and his opposite hand is completely free as well as your hand on that side is committed and low. Why not Jum on the tsubo point and strike with the opposite arm? That will also put an object in the way of any strike with the free arm.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
You are of on his blind side though (or would be if at some stage you wanted to move your feet)
With a little cross step I reckon I could make that work and just crack his left hand down enough to (in my case) right cross him in the head.
Danny T
Senior Master
But that is not what he showed or performed the moves.
As shown the opponent does nothing with the free arm and also doesn't move or do anything to reacquire the centerline.
We also look at most all moves as though it was vs an opponent with a weapon. This would fail badly vs a knife in the opposite hand.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
That is why I would tweak it so it works. The whole thing doesn't work if he stands square in front of the other guy. It turns into a hockey fight.
