Is this a new law? Do you have a reference for it? I have not heard of it in the past either as a martial arts instructor or mentioned in CPR classes. A google search is not finding anything saying that, and there's no real regulation for martial arts instructors in NYS in general to my knowledge.
Thank you for your honest reply. I honor you for being trained up in these lifesaving skills and hope you remain current and recertify at least every year. First and foremost, I am a 40-year student of various Martial Arts, a 10-year Marine Corps combat veteran, and am coming up on 20 years as an active Emergency Medical provider. Please don't get me wrong here, I say these things not to impress you at all, but to impress upon you, that I have seen, horrible tragedies, participated in some gruesome and challenging environments. et, etc Blah, Blah, Blah I understand.......
It is in fact not new at all. This herein lies the biggest challenge; Google search does not identify the law specifically because it is buried in General Business 627-A and Health Club Services Article 30, General Business Law, I have posted them below for your convenience.
If I'm reading that correctly, the rule only applies to health clubs (including martial arts schools) with memberships of 500+. I don't know if I've ever attended a martial arts school with over 500 students.
That does. Looks like it would only affect very large dojos (I don't think I've ever attended one with 500 or more people) which is why it wasn't relevant to me.
I'm merely saying there's a difference between beneficial and necessary.
Yes Sir, you are reading this correctly. With Memberships of 500 plus. I have heard rumblings of NYS Government trying to change that law to a much lower number. I will keep you posted if there is any movement or passage of any oversight.
I understand your point of beneficial and necessary. Think of it like this, Why do you have a fire extinguisher ? Just in case right, same thing goes for CPR/AED/First Aid Training. I do firmly agree with your government policy statement though. Do you remember the story of the little girl on the beach being scolded by the old man ? She was putting new born, baby turtles back in the ocean by hand, one by one. The old man scolded her saying "There are hundreds maybe thousands of turtles on this beach, you putting one back at a time is not going to make a difference". The little girl said with tears in her eyes "It mattered to this one, and the all the others I put pack in the ocean"
Just a cautionary note.
The nurses are ER nurses, not sure of the doc. Either way we always have someone certified on the floor.
That is excellent news Where do you get your training and which organization do you use ? American Heart Association, American Red Cross, ASHI or any other ?
While there is some truth to your statement, ER nurses are more exposed to CPR.
@Dirty Dog That is unfortunately by and large a true statement. That's why its important to learn these skills.
I understand your thought process here, however it is more about being Pro-active vs reactive The law's are generalized here, if, lets say the law stated 100 students or more would you still be inclined to do it just because its a law ?
Actually, the people who do CPR the most are the ED techs.
It's been my experience that untrained bystander CPR is every bit as effective as CPR performed by someone who did a class. The mortality rate for out of hospital arrests is about 90%. For in-hospital arrests, it's about 75%.
