Talking about multiple attackers...
It was quite uncalled for to break it off as a thread and put it in the TKD sympathisers forum.
But no, actually. Since the OP in the earlier thread was about the possibility of handling multiple attackers, and the best means of doing so, it was exactly the
right thing to do to split off a subthread which had gone off the original topic and was now focusing on properties of the martial art TKD, and relocate that subthread in the TKD forum. If (i) you'd made parallel comments about the ineffectiveness of karate, based on the fact that karate, like TKD, has a significant martial sport aspect where people train for tournament competition, not the street or battle field, and (ii) people had challenged you on that point in a way parallel to the way you were challenged about TKD, then it would have been entirely appropriate to relocate that element of the thread (which would have been just as off-topic as this one was) to the karate forum. Or if had been Silat, to the FMA forum. Or if Northern Mantis, then to the northern systems forum. Or.... What would have been
inappropriate would have been allowing this discussion to derail the central issues raised in the OP: is a defense against multiple attackers possible, and if so, what form does it take?
And out of context as well.
On the contrary: it was the original off-topic subthread which was out of context. You were raising questions about the overall effectiveness of a particular MA. You didn't even bother to link your attack on that MA to the issue of multiple attacks; it was a wholesale condemnation of the effectiveness of TKD on the street, which you made in the virtual presence of quite a few people who are in a position to show that your comments are unfounded. `Multiple attack'? The point is, if you're going to tell a bunch of people who adepts in a particular MA that their art is ineffective, you'd better have your facts right. Because given the amount of time they've spent studying, practicing and
using it, they know much more than you do about it. Surely that's not surprising?
I tried to end it before it got out of hand, but it was all of you that continued.
Well, you said a number of things about TKD that people who actually know something about TKD are in a position to refute from any number of points of view, on the basis of their extensive training in that art. Are you saying that in an open discussion forum the proper thing for them to do would be to keep their mouths shut and not challenge negative statements from someone whose knowledge and understanding of their art is far less than their own? Why on earth would you expect them to give up their right to respond to you?
You showed no particular restraint in challenging their art; why should they be silent in the face of your statements? Do you
actually expect people to accept that kind of double standard??
Infractions and negative rep points are not the most important things in my life.
No, of course not. They merely register others' perceptions of your behavior, and the degree to which that behavior violates norms of civility and the conventions of posting behavior that you agreed to in joining the board. If those considerations are unimportant to you, then clearly infraction records and negative rep are equally unimportant.
That's the hole that my training fills. If it cannot be tolerated that one have an opinion that does not conform to the norm, then there is no place for me here.
I'm not sure what `it' is intended to refer to here, but what people are having a hard time tolerating is just what I referred to: an evident lack of civility in the way you discuss things. There is no place for homophobic statements, for deliberate rudeness to other members, for personal attacks. We have plenty of heated discussions on MT without infraction points or neg rep being fired around. It's all in
how it's done....
