Robert Lee said:
That statement has been taken the wrong way. It is meant to mean Being gay does not mean you are not human It said being gay is not being human. Its not its just being gay. every person is a human being gay or not ThatsNot anyway towards a belief I would ever Believe. I should have read over that post befor I posted it. I just came back and saw how it read out of context. Like I said it was meant to show A gay person is still a person. And I want to set this straight I never meant for that to be taken like it has.
You're right - you should have reread it. However, while I, for myself, appreciate your statement that you did not proof your post sufficiently, I found the statement you refer to to be in keeping with the general attitude you have demonstrated.
Robert Lee said:
Now back to the thread. Its more in line now And its been said now that in a class basicly there are people not race not sexual preferance. Not faith. Its work out time. You train and Go on from there. Leave other things at the door. contact training Is my concern on safe training.
A concern for the safety of your students in training is a good thing; however, basing that concern on inaccurate information (such as your apparent assumption that any random gay person who comes in has HIV/AIDS) demonstrates ignorance, at best, and blind prejudice at worst. Should you be concerned about the possibility of blood-borne disease? To an extent. If so, you should take precautions - but to catch HIV/AIDS from contact with blood, it has to enter your system in some fashion - injection, ingestion, or absorbtion through an open wound. I doubt any of your students would suck up spilled blood to inject into others, and I likewise doubt they're going to be licking up other people's blood and swallowing it (at least, I sincerely hope not!); that just leaves open, bleeding wounds that make contact with other open, bleeding wounds, left untreated. Are you saying that your class is so bloody that you have 2 students, at the same time, bleeding uncontrollably into each others' bloody wounds? If so, I sincerely hope that you, or someone else there during every class, has first aid training - and if not, someone had better get it really quickly... which will, by the way, lift some of your concerns, as any decent first aid class from the Red Cross or similar agency will clear up many of your misconceptions about how blood-borne illness are transmitted.
Robert Lee said:
I am not so dumb that I do not know That there a gay people in all sorts of lifes aspects and if one trains M/A it there right. I have had to fight the race issues in class years ago. That took some talking trying to make students Relize there is No color no different race I had several problem youths in A class and they were Brought up by there parents to think bad about other races. They told me this It took about 3 weeks to turn it around. I hope this clears up that I do see every person as part of the human race being anything different does not mean you are not human.
So.... it's not okay to be racist, but it's okay to be homophobic? Are you teaching your students that, too?
Robert Lee said:
We all live on this earth And I will teach any body As long as they show me I should teach them. I try to hand pick all my students And try to work with each and every one of them.
What criteria do you use to 'hand pick' your students? What do you look for? What would cause you to reject a student? And if you think a student is homosexual, what would you do? Does it matter if the homosexual is male or female?
Robert Lee said:
To me a person is not more money to pay the bills when they come in and want to perhaps join the class. I want to know if they are ready for this type of training . Let them know there will be a time later where the contact level goes up. And i am just a guide that offers a way down a path that they have to learn well enough to walk alone. I work for them if I take them as a student. They hired me to help them train. I did not hire them. So I interview them And go from there An instructor works for the students. I hope mine get better then myself. and I never talk of out side related issues that put down other people. I should have never done this thread posting because it voiced aginst what some people live that do not bring harm to others. But I still think its wrong But It agin is not a hate or nothing like that issue. I would not try to tell any gay person what they do is wrong That would be forceing my belief on them. Its there personal life not mine.
The attitude you state here is a good one... except for the attitude you stated when you asked this question in the first place. For your own sake, as well as your students' sake, you need to take a class in first aid, and get rational, objective information about the risk levels and transmission methods of common diseases. If you are truly concerned about yourself or your students contracting HIV/AIDS, then you need to properly understand the risks and ways to reduce them - not ways to single out students because they are members of a group that are at a higher risk for the illness in question. Simply because a person is homosexual does not mean that they have HIV/AIDS; increased risk does not mean a guarantee. But if you truly believe that "I would not try to tell any gay person what they do is wrong" then you cannot treat those students any differently than any other student; otherwise, you are doing just that.
