Great self-protection wrist lock

[punisher731]

Self-Protection Wrist Lock


The video is interesting. It is a "staged" domestic violence situation to see if people will intercede. Interesting to see "how" people tried to help and intervene.

Go to the 30 second mark, and the guy pulls off a really nice wrist lock.

 

[Buka20]

Self-Protection Wrist Lock


The video is interesting. It is a "staged" domestic violence situation to see if people will intercede. Interesting to see "how" people tried to help and intervene.

Go to the 30 second mark, and the guy pulls off a really nice wrist lock.

The problem with staged scenarios can be the response. If a person is physically capable and well trained there could be a problem when they act in defense of what they perceive as a victim. (A justified perception.)

The aggressors in that video are all bigger than I am, and appear stronger. I’m not about to come in with wrist lock. They’re going to get blindsided with an end goal of being unconscious at a bare minimum.

Be that proper or legal would not be in my thought process. If I was arrested, that video would be part of the trial. I like my chances.

Bottom line, any of those women could be your wife, your mother, your sister or your daughter. Walking by and doing nothing is not an option in my opinion.

 

[Wing Woo Gar37]

I have seen the well meaning savior beaten and pistol whipped by both the perpetrator of violence and the “victim” that the intercepter meant to save. In this case the perp was the pimp and the “victim” was his prostitute employee being disciplined. Sometimes you don’t know what you are looking at. Best advice is to mind your own and stay to your own. Where I grew up, you could get shot just looking into someone else’s car while at the stoplight. BTW I can’t see the OPs video.

 

[frank raud53]

Self-Protection Wrist Lock


The video is interesting. It is a "staged" domestic violence situation to see if people will intercede. Interesting to see "how" people tried to help and intervene.

Go to the 30 second mark, and the guy pulls off a really nice wrist lock.

He's done that before.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf103]

Entirely a side note, but if this is the experiment i believe (was a pop social psychology series) those tags only fit when you cut off half the episodes. What they discovered was a large portion of the population intervened when it was a man abusing, and almost no one did for a women as the abuser. When interviewed afterwards, if I'm remembering right (i saw this years ago) the main reasons people did not intervene was that 1) the man should be able to take care of himself, and 2) they didn't want people see them fighting a girl.

 

[Wing Woo Gar37]

Entirely a side note, but if this is the experiment i believe (was a pop social psychology series) those tags only fit when you cut off half the episodes. What they discovered was a large portion of the population intervened when it was a man abusing, and almost no one did for a women as the abuser. When interviewed afterwards, if I'm remembering right (i saw this years ago) the main reasons people did not intervene was that 1) the man should be able to take care of himself, and 2) they didn't want people see them fighting a girl.

I saw a wife abusing her husband at the vet one night. I told her to knock it off or get out of the clinic. I would not have physically intervened because he wasn’t being injured, just humiliated.

 

[Dirty Dog1]

Self-Protection Wrist Lock


The video is interesting. It is a "staged" domestic violence situation to see if people will intercede. Interesting to see "how" people tried to help and intervene.

Go to the 30 second mark, and the guy pulls off a really nice wrist lock.

Do you want to get shot? Because this is how you get shot.

 

[drop bear103]

The problem with staged scenarios can be the response. If a person is physically capable and well trained there could be a problem when they act in defense of what they perceive as a victim. (A justified perception.)

The aggressors in that video are all bigger than I am, and appear stronger. I’m not about to come in with wrist lock. They’re going to get blindsided with an end goal of being unconscious at a bare minimum.

Be that proper or legal would not be in my thought process. If I was arrested, that video would be part of the trial. I like my chances.

Bottom line, any of those women could be your wife, your mother, your sister or your daughter. Walking by and doing nothing is not an option in my opinion.

 

[drop bear103]

Self-Protection Wrist Lock


The video is interesting. It is a "staged" domestic violence situation to see if people will intercede. Interesting to see "how" people tried to help and intervene.

Go to the 30 second mark, and the guy pulls off a really nice wrist lock.

That has been my go to disarm since forever.

 

[wab251]

Self-Protection Wrist Lock


The video is interesting. It is a "staged" domestic violence situation to see if people will intercede. Interesting to see "how" people tried to help and intervene.

Go to the 30 second mark, and the guy pulls off a really nice wrist lock.

To be honest... I am more impressed with the obviously untrained people who stepped in to help.... see the kid using his scooter as a shield. Its good to know people will do something or at least try to help out.

 

[Wing Woo Gar37]

100%

 

[Wing Woo Gar37]

Do you want to get shot? Because this is how you get shot.

I really want to emphasize this, because it’s absolutely true.

 

[HighKick1]

100%

Stupid is as stupid does. Don't bring that stupidity to TN. We have enough already.

 

[Wing Woo Gar37]

Stupid is as stupid does. Don't bring that stupidity to TN. We have enough already.

These YouTube pranksters deserve whatever they get.

 

[Dirty Dog1]

Just FYI... That picture shows an OPEN fracture, not just a fracture. With open fractures, bacteria have a direct path to the fracture. Which means the infection can be inside the bone itself. This is called osteomyelitis and since antibiotics are not super good about penetrating bone, it's really not easy to treat. Open fractures usually head to the OR promptly. They need to be washed out with antibiotics, reduced, and stabilized. If infection occurs, they may need additional debridement, which obviously is going to affect how the site looks once it's all healed. Which may result in further surgery for reconstruction.
With that kind of trauma to the nose, the person is also at high risk for damage to other structures in the face. Like an orbital fracture. Orbital fractures can often create a passage from the sinuses to the orbit. So guess where the infection is likely to spread?
Couple years ago, my family wanted to give me a surprise birthday party. They got one of those big party popper things that shoot confetti. Which sounds a bit like a gunshot. So after giving it some thought and debating who was going to trigger it, the decision was made NOT to trigger it until I had seen them.
Scare pranks can be funny. On people you know, and are pretty sure won't kill you.

 

[jks919975]

The wristlock was nicely done, and he scaled back promptly -- which is good, since the way he did it, he probably had the skills to have really hurt the actor.

Direct intervention in a situation like that -- whatever the gender combinations -- is fraught, to say the least, if you're not in a position that mandates direct action, like a cop on duty. At aminimum, you take the postion of the person you're defending, and things can go really south if they aren't in a legally sound position. Intervene defending the robber in a robbery gone bad scenario, for example... and you could be found to be part of the criminal act. Calling it out to the crowd ("Hey, what's that guy doing to her!"), calling the cops, there are a number of ways to intervene without getting physically involved in a situation -- and for a lot of folks, that's the wisest choice.

Pulling a prank/test/whatever like that in a public location is also rather dangerous, because you don't know who's going to intervene or how. At a bare minimum, you need lots of safety protocols in place and people ready to intervene before things to sideways. I don't see any evidence of any of that here.

 

[wab251]

I am not so sure I like the way that wrist lock was done. He left way too many openings, and waited way too long before getting any effect out of the bad guy.

Watch and you will see 3 distinct movements:
1. he grabs the bad guys hand, taking it down off the girls hair
2. he raises the bad guys hand up, so that the forearm is vertical
3. he twists the wrist and takes the guy down

During steps one and two... the bad guy is not effected at all, other than his hand is down and then up. Notice his posture and balance does not change at all during steps one and two. Only during step 3 does the bad guy's body get effected but the lock. What this means is he did not connect to the bad guys center for two counts there. During those first two counts, since the bad guy was completely unaffected by the hand hold... he could have punched the guy, he could have pulled a knife and stabbed the guy (people that know knives can produce them scary fast), he could have shifted his feet and shot for a double leg... he could have done anything.... but he just stood there and allowed the lock to happen.

There was also a separation of the movements, like an extra pause between each step: down - pause - up - pause - twist.... this just gives extra time for the bad guy to respond. The escape from that lock is to face the guy grabbing your wrist, and extend your hand out, rotating the palm down.... he had two counts and two pauses to make a quarter turn towards the guy while extending his hand, breaking the grip and setting up the double leg....

What would have made things better.....
1. Remove the pauses.... from initial grab to take down, should be one continuous movement, not three movements separated by pauses.
2. Remove slack from the system... the initial grab going down, should have blended into and movement away from the bad guy... this connect the elbow to the shoulder, to the spine... breaking the bad guys posture and taking his balance.... while removing the slack
3. Make a smaller circle for the take down part. When you take the hand down and away, keep it at that same level as you rotate your body through the wrist.... picking it up into the air gives back all the slack you took when taking the hand down and away

By applying these corrections, he connect to the bad guys center, takes the slack out to make the lock tighter, destroys the bad guys posture, takes his balance and makes it very hard for the left hand to reach him and makes it very hard for the bad guy to turn into the lock. Additionally, these details allow you to have more control... going faster or slower, harder or softer as the situation dictates.

I know, you are reading this saying "but it worked and put the bad guy down." He was not really a bad guy.... he was an actor, who was not actually being violent with anyone and would not respond violently to the "helper." Had this been a case of actual real violence, instead of an actor playing a scene, I have a feeling this would have turned out differently. If he was grabbing her hair in real violence, I doubt it comes off that easily, when he lifts it up in step 2, he gets punched in the mouth and the lock is gone.

I give him props for doing something and not just walking by.... but the execution of the lock and take down, was not good for me. Try that exact technique, as he did it on someone not wanting it to happen and things go very differently....