I learned my first punch trick and I’m so happy

[Shugyosha35 31]

I’m not familiar with any northern crane. What do you know about it?

Black Crane iirc. It was replaced by white crane in shaolin in the 1920s

 

[Flying Crane]

Black Crane iirc. It was replaced by white crane in shaolin in the 1920s

Do you know anything specific about it? It’s history, Who founded the method, what it was based on, anything stylistically? And what is the white crane that replaced it? Is that a northern method, or are you referring to the Fujian?

Do you have any sources?

It is my understanding that some methods include aspects of the animals within them such as various five animal methods and may have some crane aspects or a crane component to the larger system, but that is not the same as a full crane system. It seems to me that these components are their own interpretation of crane, and not something from the Fujian or Tibetan traditions, with the exception of Hung Ga, which was specifically influenced by the Tibetan method. But even there, they have crane aspects that to my eye did not come from the Tibetan, and may be their own interpretation from the bird.

These are just my observations from what I have seen. I have not specifically studied a five animal system nor Hung Ga, although in the latter case the Tibetan influence is documented.

 

[Xue Sheng128 3]

Do you know anything specific about it? It’s history, Who founded the method, what it was based on, anything stylistically? And what is the white crane that replaced it? Is that a northern method, or are you referring to the Fujian?

Do you have any sources?

It is my understanding that some methods include aspects of the animals within them such as various five animal methods and may have some crane aspects or a crane component to the larger system, but that is not the same as a full crane system. It seems to me that these components are their own interpretation of crane, and not something from the Fujian or Tibetan traditions, with the exception of Hung Ga, which was specifically influenced by the Tibetan method. But even there, they have crane aspects that to my eye did not come from the Tibetan, and may be their own interpretation from the bird.

These are just my observations from what I have seen. I have not specifically studied a five animal system nor Hung Ga, although in the latter case the Tibetan influence is documented.

Never heard of it either, but found this about it

Black Crane Kung Fu is a specialized, relatively hard expression of traditional Crane-style martial arts. It emphasizes evasion, stability, and sharp, targeted strikes using the "crane beak" hand formation. Often integrated into larger systems like Shaolin and Hung Gar, it relies on fluid footwork and redirecting force rather than using brute strength.

Not sure how accurate any of this is

 

[Flying Crane]

Never heard of it either, but found this about it

Not sure how accurate any of this is

This looks like nonsense to me, perhaps a repackaging of a Japanese/Okinawan/Korean method and rebranded as some kind of crane. Nothing about it looked like any crane that I have seen, Tibetan, Fujian, or otherwise. That initial description is so generic as to be meaningless. “Expression of traditional crane style martial art” is a statement in a void. Which crane style? There is no crane style in a vacuum. Any crane style would be specific to something. Nothing is specified and as I stated, it looks nothing like any crane I’ve ever seen although I acknowledge I’ve not seen everything that is out there.

I think this is a modern creation with little or no actual crane from any legitimate or established method. I suppose it is somebody’s new interpretation of crane.

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

This looks like nonsense to me, perhaps a repackaging of a Japanese/Okinawan/Korean method and rebranded as some kind of crane. Nothing about it looked like any crane that I have seen, Tibetan, Fujian, or otherwise. That initial description is so generic as to be meaningless. “Expression of traditional crane style martial art” is a statement in a void. Which crane style? There is no crane style in a vacuum. Any crane style would be specific to something. Nothing is specified and as I stated, it looks nothing like any crane I’ve ever seen although I acknowledge I’ve not seen everything that is out there.

I think this is a modern creation with little or no actual crane from any legitimate or established method. I suppose it is somebody’s new interpretation of crane.

The switch at the Shaolin Temple occurred in the 1920s. I can’t imagine it survived the cultural revolution and if it did, it’s in a much different form and resurrected by committees.

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

So basically have Palama 1 down pretty well. Got to watch a belt promotion, which was inspiring.

 

[MisterAndersonOR]

Hi all,
The word I learned for martial arts teacher, is Sensei. My first Sensei was David Stuart, with Oregon Kenpo Karate. Then a 30 year pause, then Mister Chad White, with Shaolin style, at Keizer Martial Arts. And lately, it has been Miss Sherry Brown, with Kensho Martial Arts.

Just want to stay healthy for another 30 years.
Regards,
Matt

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

Hi all,
The word I learned for martial arts teacher, is Sensei. My first Sensei was David Stuart, with Oregon Kenpo Karate. Then a 30 year pause, then Mister Chad White, with Shaolin style, at Keizer Martial Arts. And lately, it has been Miss Sherry Brown, with Kensho Martial Arts.

Just want to stay healthy for another 30 years.
Regards,
Matt

My Uechi instructor is my Sensei, my BJJ instructor is coach, my kajukenbo instructor is Sigung. They're all just my teachers.

 

[Darren]

At his rank he’s a Sigung now. I know he’s my direct “Sifu” in the same sense he’s my coach my sensei, chief or any other title denoting direct instructor. He uses the Sigung title and I use what he prefers. I believe in our lineage Black Belt-3rd degree Sibak, 3rd-6th(?) Sifu, and 6-8th Sigung. I might be off a Dan rank here or there. I think this is specific to Bianchi lineage of the Halbuna line. GM Bianchi has returned to training “orthodox” Halbuna branch so his newer students might use different titles. I hope someone in the know might clarify otherwise I’ll ask on Tuesday

Hummm? at my first Kenpo school it was required to address the teacher as sifu, where im training now we call the teacher by his first name, James.

took traditional TKD from song choe he was from south Korea for one year, forget what we had to call him but all three have been great teachers.

 

[isshinryuronin26 26]

Hummm? at my first Kenpo school it was required to address the teacher as sifu, where im training now we call the teacher by his first name, James.

Ed Parker was frequently addressed or referred to as "Mr. Parker" or sometimes by others in his circle amongst themselves, with respect, as "the Old Man" even though he was only middle aged.

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

Learned standing cover one yesterday

So far Ive learned Palama 1, backfist+takedown, half of a clock drill, the squat sets, 1 punch counter and one standing cover (like a punch counter but from a neutral position). I have to learn 2 grab counters and that covers white belt material. I'll have to sweat the belt a bit but I'm looking forward to testing

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

Ed Parker was frequently addressed or referred to as "Mr. Parker" or sometimes by others in his circle amongst themselves, with respect, as "the Old Man" even though he was only middle aged.

The Tracy's called him old man in all their videos and I was always so confused because they have to be within a few years of each other

 

[Darren]

The Tracy's called him old man in all their videos and I was always so confused because they have to be within a few years of each other

i was just a orange belt like 35 years ago, when news of his death was announced, man missed my change to ever meet the man, shot ahead to 08-Aug-2026 i get back into it, now one of my instructors that is training me met the man at a picnic in California just before he died. wonderful.

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

Something I’ve been struggling is switching stances in the hand and foot combinations. This afternoon, I said no more. After a couple hours of work and visualization I finally got it. I’m so excited to show my Sigung.

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

I also learned Back Grab 1 on Thursday. I really love what I’m being taught and believe it is precious.

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

Before

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

After

 

[Flying Crane]

A few pounds less, yes?

 

[Shugyosha35 31]

A few pounds less, yes?

Yup! Plus a new belt.

Just been training daily doing kon li exercises from feeding crane, Sanchinx 3 hojo undo mawashi uke practice and my Kajukenbo forms and solo exercises. Once a week I do an intense calisthenics strength training routine but other than that just my Kajukenbo class conditioning and my Uechi material.

 

[Flying Crane]

Yup! Plus a new belt.

Just been training daily doing kon li exercises from feeding crane, Sanchinx 3 hojo undo mawashi uke practice and my Kajukenbo forms and solo exercises. Once a week I do an intense calisthenics strength training routine but other than that just my Kajukenbo class conditioning and my Uechi material.

Well done, and keep at it. It is exciting to see that kind of change happen.

And I did notice the belt, congratulations. But in my opinion, the weight loss is worthy of more kudos.