No nothing is being said anywhere.
With some snide remarks on here being made I'd hate to have the rabid, feverish and manic thoughts that seem to colour the right v left debates on here ruin the friendship the Brits and the Americans have by bringing that into our discussions, the OP title is in that vein sadly. Can we keep the sensationalist out of our relationships please and keep it sensible.
That last bit:
Is EXACTLY what we are talking about. The Obama administration either has forgotten who our friends are, or, never cared. Look at how the Obama administration has interacted with the UK and Israel. Is that how you would treat your friends? If it is, you won't have friends for long, and rightly so.while remembering who our friends are.
That last bit: Is EXACTLY what we are talking about. The Obama administration either has forgotten who our friends are, or, never cared. Look at how the Obama administration has interacted with the UK and Israel. Is that how you would treat your friends? If it is, you won't have friends for long, and rightly so.
Look, America has two faces, one is the American people who we all like, we can drink, fight alongside with, shag and generally have a good time with, the other side is the United States of America, the official side, the one the world either hates or is scared of, the side that interferes in other countries affairs, that supports tryrannies because they 'oppose' the commies. We know the difference and we know which side is our friends.
The USA, the official side started losing world credibility with the McCarthy witchhunts then Vietnam. Supporting the Shah of Iran and his ilk around the world, arming the Taliban, selling weapons to Iraq, invading Grenada helped drag the USA's reputation down even more. The first Iraq war, then the second and finally Afghanistan has exhausted much of the good will that was left. However Americans have never been regarded the same way as their governments, although that may sound odd but they haven't. More than any other country we seem to disassociate Americans from their leaders.
5-0 Kenpo, snide remark there. Am I bovvered? Are you going to put your hand on your heart and swear that American follow everything the Brits do with mouths agape and words of wonder on their tongues? No, didn't think so, you don't care what we do either. the acid words aren't needed.
Don't involve us in your politics.
I'm sorry, but IMO reference to ethnicity is out of place here. I am not Jewish, but I would really prefer that we keep on the topic and I am only saying this because I don't feel Tez should have to cop this %#*t.What's funny is, you actually do the same thing regarding your religion "Jews don't care about non-Jewish beliefs", meanwhile you wax philosophic about how Jews argue about everything within their religion, which might actually include a comparison with other religious beliefs, if only on an intellectual curiosity basis.
And this discussion is not about the individual interpersonal relationships between U.S. citizens and UK subjects. It is about the relationships between our two governments. So that just means that you missed the entire point of the OP to begin with.
You weren't involved until you decided to comment on a thread regarding U.S. politics. You needn't have said anything. This was, ostensibly, not to gauge your reaction to the issue, but to gauge how Americans feel that their government is treating yours.
Kiwis, Poms and Canucks. Sounds about right. Even better if the pom's bring their Gurkha'sI'm sorry, but IMO reference to ethnicity is out of place here. I am not Jewish, but I would really prefer that we keep on the topic and I am only saying this because I don't feel Tez should have to cop this %#*t.
Back to the OP. The question wasn't phrased about Governments.
"Britain, do you still think Obama likes you?" I would have thought that that was a question asked of any of the members from GB. It specifically starts "Britain, ..." Did you expect a reply from the British Government? It was NOT asking Americans how they feel about this but obviously they are going to put in their two bobs worth which is as it should be.
If Tez and Superkin didn't respond, who did you think would fill in the other side of the story? It wasn't a rhetorical question was it?
From an outside point of view Obama is losing the plot. I find that really sad as we need solid alliances, not the divisive rhetoric. His suck up to Sarkozy showed total lack of judgement, or does he want to ditch existing arrangements and go it alone with the French. I know if I was going in to a fight I'd have a New Zealander on one side of me and a bloody Pom on the other.
Edit .. I'd have a Canuck there too for good measure.
Tridents are employed on the Royal Navy's Vanguard class submarines.
Of which there are four.
Each of them can be armed with up to 16 Tridents.
This is, in fact, the only declared in service nuclear weaponry of Great Britain, having decommissioned all others back in 1998.
You can read a great deal about the Trident here
And the Vanguard class elsewhere...like Jane's..you can read about the Trident there as well.....
Given all of that, how can you make a big deal of this? Both our nuclear communities cooperate a great deal, and have since....well, since the Manhattan Project.....and the Russian nuclear infrastructure is in such a ridiculous shambles that it couldn't pose much of a threat even if Putin single-handedly brought back the Evil Empire tomorrow......:lfao:
There you go…giving away the secrets of British nuclear weapons to the Russians… MT...and EVERYONE ELSE....you got something against Britain do you…hmmmmmm
:disgust: You just had to bring Logic and reason into this… didn’t you :uhyeah: