---Well LFJ, this reply of yours pretty much shows that about half the time you don't know what the h3ll you're talking about! 
Of course it doesn't. It's a Northern style. You're missing the point and demonstrating that you have no idea how to analyze similarities between TCMAs.
---That's rich! G...E...S...T...A...L....T Dude, clearly you are the one that continues to miss the point and have no idea to how to analyze physical structure. I talked about the total package. Not one isolated technique from a Northern style that shares no similarities in legends and history or background with Wing Chun. But you clearly don't get that for some reason.
You used to complain to Alan Orr that his stuff doesn't "look like Wing Chun". Then you started his online program and learned how it functions, and now you agree with him.
----You have no idea what you are talking about.
You told me I need to get out more. I've spent all but a few years of my adult life in China pursuing TCMAs, learning and researching them from North to South. I haven't even been back stateside for a visit in about half a decade. I still need to get out more? Have you ever been out of the country, your state, your backyard?
---Well, if you are such a world traveler then, you really need to open your eyes and open your mind. Otherwise it sounds like you've been wasting a lot of time.
What I have found is that all the Wing Chun "hands" have equivalents up North, in single systems, and each action of the Wing Chun forms could be given applications from a northern perspective, because there are similarities in human movement and fighting instincts.
---Total Package. Gestalt. Why is that so hard to get? I don't deny that individual things from Wing Chun can be found in other styles. Human movement is human movement. Heck, I see more similarities between Maul Mornies Kuntau/Silat and Wing Chun than I do between most Northern Kung Fu styles and Wing Chun. But Silat does not also share such things as locale, very similar legends and history, and a lot of people through the years saying there may be a connection between Wing Chun and White Crane. And, in anticipation of the reply I know is coming.....if you haven't heard anyone other than me and Hendrik Santo talk about a possible connection between Wing Chun and White Crane, then you obviously haven't been paying attention! Hence my comment that you need to get out more!! And it sounds like you have "been out".....but maybe not paying attention?????
. I think to be a serious researcher of TCMAs, you have to have learned at least one northern and one southern style.
---To be ANY kind of researcher you have to keep an open mind and be willing to look at what is right in front of you. So I think we can discount you as a "serious researcher."
No, dude. I said it's "similar" to how it is done in the BJ form. Every lineage does it by placing the back of the wrist into the sternum to create a solid triangle connected to the body. I was struck by this exact concept in a northern style because it is rather unique.
---Well there you go! You are world traveler and a serious researcher yet you think "every lineage does it by placing the back of the wrist into the sternum"! No lineage that I have learned taught it that way! I was taught distinctly NOT to rest the wrist against the chest. The wrist is bent and placed near the sternum simply to make it easier to bring the elbow close to the centerline.
Now, this is quite a unique concept I haven't seen in other styles. Does White Crane do it? If not, it seems to have fewer similarities than a completely unrelated style from the North which also contains equivalents to each Wing Chun "hand", as I listed on a previous page. I don't think White Crane even contains all of those.
---Ok. So where's the video so people can compare and decide for themselves?
Of course it doesn't. It's a Northern style. You're missing the point and demonstrating that you have no idea how to analyze similarities between TCMAs.
---That's rich!
G...E...S...T...A...L....T Dude, clearly you are the one that continues to miss the point and have no idea to how to analyze physical structure. I talked about the total package. Not one isolated technique from a Northern style that shares no similarities in legends and history or background with Wing Chun. But you clearly don't get that for some reason.You used to complain to Alan Orr that his stuff doesn't "look like Wing Chun". Then you started his online program and learned how it functions, and now you agree with him.
----You have no idea what you are talking about.
You told me I need to get out more. I've spent all but a few years of my adult life in China pursuing TCMAs, learning and researching them from North to South. I haven't even been back stateside for a visit in about half a decade. I still need to get out more? Have you ever been out of the country, your state, your backyard?
---Well, if you are such a world traveler then, you really need to open your eyes and open your mind. Otherwise it sounds like you've been wasting a lot of time.
What I have found is that all the Wing Chun "hands" have equivalents up North, in single systems, and each action of the Wing Chun forms could be given applications from a northern perspective, because there are similarities in human movement and fighting instincts.
---Total Package. Gestalt. Why is that so hard to get? I don't deny that individual things from Wing Chun can be found in other styles. Human movement is human movement. Heck, I see more similarities between Maul Mornies Kuntau/Silat and Wing Chun than I do between most Northern Kung Fu styles and Wing Chun. But Silat does not also share such things as locale, very similar legends and history, and a lot of people through the years saying there may be a connection between Wing Chun and White Crane. And, in anticipation of the reply I know is coming.....if you haven't heard anyone other than me and Hendrik Santo talk about a possible connection between Wing Chun and White Crane, then you obviously haven't been paying attention! Hence my comment that you need to get out more!! And it sounds like you have "been out".....but maybe not paying attention?????
. I think to be a serious researcher of TCMAs, you have to have learned at least one northern and one southern style.
---To be ANY kind of researcher you have to keep an open mind and be willing to look at what is right in front of you. So I think we can discount you as a "serious researcher."
No, dude. I said it's "similar" to how it is done in the BJ form. Every lineage does it by placing the back of the wrist into the sternum to create a solid triangle connected to the body. I was struck by this exact concept in a northern style because it is rather unique.
---Well there you go! You are world traveler and a serious researcher yet you think "every lineage does it by placing the back of the wrist into the sternum"! No lineage that I have learned taught it that way! I was taught distinctly NOT to rest the wrist against the chest. The wrist is bent and placed near the sternum simply to make it easier to bring the elbow close to the centerline.
Now, this is quite a unique concept I haven't seen in other styles. Does White Crane do it? If not, it seems to have fewer similarities than a completely unrelated style from the North which also contains equivalents to each Wing Chun "hand", as I listed on a previous page. I don't think White Crane even contains all of those.
---Ok. So where's the video so people can compare and decide for themselves?
