$wear In $chool And It Will Co$t You Big $$$$
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What ever happened to detentions?
Like they worked....
If fining people worked, we'd have no more traffic violations, assaults, and a dozen other things too.
My main argument here is the simply the amount. The students most likely to go on a swearing frenzie, the ones who think nothing about swearing, may very well be the ones who can't afford the fine. You may very well push some of these kids to simply drop out.
All I know is you need to catch kids really, really early to help them/change them in a positive way. This is high school...
Quite true about the fines...I was just saying that detentions NEVER really worked in detering bad habits IMHO....
Quite true in some cases...I knew students that spent 85% of their school years in detention and they NEVER changed...Personally I never swore in school, my potty mouth developed after I quite school and it took the intervention of a very pretty and smart lady to get me to change my ways....
Great. Maybe they can install those PC ticket spewing machines from Demolition Man..... add some Red Light cameras outside for even more "safety".
My wife had to evaluate a professor who wouldn't/couldn't stop routinely dropping the F Bomb during lectures... wonder where the lids get it from?
My wife had to evaluate a professor who wouldn't/couldn't stop routinely dropping the F Bomb during lectures... wonder where the lids get it from?
They worked in the sense that it removed the disturbance from the classroom and allowed those more serious about school to get back to business.
The Last Legionary
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I would have funded a new school in about 3 weeks.
Gordon Nore
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QFT on all of the above.
The ticketing idea intrigues me, but I have no idea how it is enforced. How do you collect? What's the consequence of not paying up? If suspensions don't work the first couple of times around, they won't work at all.
It's time to bring back everyone's favorite NCO.
I was thinking more along the lines of Corporal Punishment.......
Jenny_in_Chico
Black Belt
I can just imagine some kid claiming that he was only selling drugs to pay off his school tickets...
Jenny_in_Chico
Black Belt
I agree. I only got "pops" once (I think it was for skipping 3 detentions) but it felt like a bomb had gone off in my pants. I was much better behaved after that.
Again, same argument, if corporal punishment worked weÂ’d use it all the time.
Its funny, if you use physical violence on a child before guilt has been determined, its torture, if you use it after guilt has been determined itÂ’s a justified punishment.
Why do people seem to think that hardship, physical or otherwise, “builds” character?
There is no evidence that corporal punishment works, in fact the evidence shows the exact opposite result when itÂ’s employed. The kids get worse.
I donÂ’t understand, we donÂ’t hit mass murderers, rapists, and various other pieces of **** in our society because we think its wrong, yet we are willing to hit our children??
There is something seriously wrong with that logicÂ…
Jenny_in_Chico
Black Belt
Worked on me, Ken. 
Worked on me, Ken.
Jenny I want so badly to make a comment about foreplay...but I won't...:angel:
I did a paper on CP a couple of months ago, and I read many papers on it, hence its very fresh in my mind. Statistically it does not work and the evidence shows the opposite affect.
On this point at least we are in total agreement.
Blade96
Senior Master
oh dear god, someone who actually feels the exact same way i do about corporal punishment!!!!
I was hit too and it had a reverse effect. My parents realized that later and in person apologized for hitting me when i was a child. (They didnt know about the bullying and abuse i had suffered and which was likely driving my behavior; like many victims, i never told.) In fact my parents if they did not hit me, they were authoritarian in their parenting. I never learned to respect them for that, I learned to DISrespect them.
Happy to say my parents are anti-corporal punishment now.
They actually get tears in their eyes now thinking about it. I forgave them, because at the time they thought it was right, and it was what all parents did when they themselves were kids.
