michelle_gonzales74
White Belt
I have heard alot of people talking about "drunken" styles. what is this?what does it mean by drunken??
stupid question??
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Jimi
Black Belt
Shaolin is known for it's drunken styles, drunken staff, drunken monkey etc... I have heard that it is deceptive, that the practioner is not realy intoxicated but will look like it. I'm sure some others will inform you more on here. PEACE
Maybe they spend to much time in a bar.:drinkbeer :cheers:
Terry
Terry
It takes *a lot of practice* to do those styles. The martial artists learn how to move as if drunk, but maintain their full control and precise handling of the weapons. The premise behind this is that they appear to be very well relaxed, and this adds to their ability to move. As mentioned above, the drunk behavior is meant to be deceptive, allowing the attacking opponent to believe that the defending martial artist doesn't know what he is doing and and thus the opponent is lured to make mistakes by that false belief.
I wouldn't want to mess with those martial artists. I've watched a black belt demonstrate his style, and man, he is *very good* with his handling of himself and the weapons!
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I wouldn't want to mess with those martial artists. I've watched a black belt demonstrate his style, and man, he is *very good* with his handling of himself and the weapons!
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michelle_gonzales74
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wooo hooo!!!
sign me up!!
:drinky:
sign me up!!
:drinky:
The drunken styles are very difficult to be really skilled in. Much like "natural styles", they are loose, appear out of control, and off-balance, appearing to stumble. A poorly done drunken style is too coreographed.
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
Generally it is my understanding that there is no separate "drunken style" per se, but rather many of the Chinese arts have some drunken material that is part of the complete art. It may be one or two or more forms that teach this aspect of the art, and some of the famous forms get borrowed from one art to another and incorporated into their curriculum.
When done well, it is amazing, but it is very difficult to do and I think you can hurt yourself doing it. Ya gotta be careful and have a good teacher, and I think this stuff is rather rare.
Watch Jackie Chan's Drunken Master II. While it is somewhat of a comedy, and the drunken aspect is theatrically overdone a bit, it is a great movie and will give you a general sense of what it is all about. His character in the movie, Wong Fei-Hung (a real Chinese folk hero, known for his practice of Hung Gar style, and his development of the Fu/Hok Tiger and Crane form) frequently gets drunk, and this makes his fighting more powerful. This is not how it is done in real life, but makes for a fun movie.
When done well, it is amazing, but it is very difficult to do and I think you can hurt yourself doing it. Ya gotta be careful and have a good teacher, and I think this stuff is rather rare.
Watch Jackie Chan's Drunken Master II. While it is somewhat of a comedy, and the drunken aspect is theatrically overdone a bit, it is a great movie and will give you a general sense of what it is all about. His character in the movie, Wong Fei-Hung (a real Chinese folk hero, known for his practice of Hung Gar style, and his development of the Fu/Hok Tiger and Crane form) frequently gets drunk, and this makes his fighting more powerful. This is not how it is done in real life, but makes for a fun movie.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
thanks or that link
I may wll pickup a couple o the books for reading and reference
I may wll pickup a couple o the books for reading and reference
For our school, it's saturday night out at the Fire Hall after a Black Belt test :ultracool
Come on...you knew it was coming...
Come on...you knew it was coming...
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
stone_dragone said:
I think I may have trained it at that school too.
mjd
Green Belt
I know there is a style that uses the deception of a drunk, but does anyone really think this is a real art to study, seems it would be more along the lines of a tactical option along the lines of the crazy defense.
All funny stuff aside, would you real study this method of defense, sounds goofy to me.
I usually do better when sober.
All funny stuff aside, would you real study this method of defense, sounds goofy to me.
I usually do better when sober.
Flying Crane said:
The first Drunken Master contains clearly filmed forms of 7 of the 8 drunken gods (Jackie's character refused to practice the female form)
The second movie is much more fluid and quite a bit funnier
Jimi
Black Belt
Does that mean Ms. Ho is the 8th Drunken Immortal? That's awsome.
I think you could learn a lot about motion by studying the lessons. Drunken style chooses mobility over stability; however, the student is introduced to effectively striking while in a constant state of motion and while using more than one part of your body as a base. I feel the name "Drunken" is what scares you. It is, perhaps, a derogitory term for a whole system of fightingthat has great merrit.mjd said:
Sean
The attached vid is of a drunken style matched up against a kyokushin karate style, its nice to actually see it being used rather than the standard forms.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1614252265506729434&q
Lamont
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1614252265506729434&q
Lamont
Most traditional Chinese martial arts have a drunken section. It's primary function is to train sinking. Wushu does an amazing drunken performance, TCMA drunken is sobered up for actual usage in fighting. Like any other technique, used at the proper time it's effective.
YouTube has a vid clip demonstrating the wrong way to utilize drunken when fighting.
YouTube has a vid clip demonstrating the wrong way to utilize drunken when fighting.
