Christ…
The OP has been taken to task numerous times for posting erroneous information and not bothering to validate the statements he makes. This time is no different than any of the others. Fortunately, there are any number of people on the forum that are willing to attempt to educate the OP since he seems determined to avoid educating himself.
This. However… some things I just don't let stand… but it must be said, Paul's absolutely right.
Well I don't know about the UK but in the USA you're allowed to defend yourself. That's part of what in my opinion makes the USA so beautiful.
You can defend yourself in every nation on the planet. There is nothing special about the US there at all, other than you guys seem to have a love of, and preference for, lethal responses. And if you think that is "beautiful", well…
That said, you're absolutely right. You don't know about the UK. Or anywhere else, frankly.
One if the impressions I've got from some of what's been said on this forum regarding Australia and self defense is that you can use self defense in Australia as long as you don't use weapons.
What on earth are you talking about? No-one, at any point on this forum has ever said anything of the kind. No-one. It'd be idiocy to even suggest. What we do like, however, is some kind of common sense, proportionate response… justified force and so on. If a weapon is justified, use a weapon. If someone calls you a name, and you decide to run them over with your car, that's not exactly proportionate.
Got it?
The article may been bit misreading but was talking about weapons.
No where in any of the articles is it saying you could not use martial arts for self defense.
It just you cannot go to store and by gun for self defense. And guns have to be locked in safe.
To get gun for target shooting or hunting is red tape. Have to get approval why you want to own a gun and you must prove it, background checks, safety class, proper permits, two people must say you okay person to own a gun.
To own gun is really hard in Australia.
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You have to be a member of a target shooting club or a hunter and you have to prove it. For hunting, you can get written permission from a landowner who says you are hunting on his land. Or you can join a hunting club. Pistols [handguns], on the other hand, are heavily restricted. All applicants undergo a background check by the police and there is a mandatory 30 day cooling off period for all license applications, both long arms and pistols. Firearms safety training courses are mandatory as well.
Another part of the law that changed is that the police can come to your house and inspect your storage. When we renovated our house, I built a room dedicated to my firearms collection. They’re all in large safes. All the ammunition is stored separately to the rifles and the pistols. Quote
What it’s Like to Own Guns in a Country with Strict Gun Control.
What it's Like to Own Guns in a Country with Strict Gun Control
It is even harder in the the UK.
Son, rather than go through the lunacy of your post, I'm simply going to suggest you don't try to tell us here in Australia what it's like here in Australia. You don't have a clue.
But no, owning a gun is not hard here. It's simply not so insanely easy as it appears to be in the US. Really, what it comes down to is we ask "do you have a reason to own one?", whereas the US seems to prefer asking "is there a reason for us to not give you one?", with a preference for looking for a way to say "no"….
Even the cops don't really have weapons self defense and shoot people armed with knife in the UK.
Just look at the many youtube clips of many officers dancing around on youtube throughing trash cans and any thing they can find at a suspects armed with non gun.
The UK police hardly shoot people armed with knife, stick or other weapon that is not a gun
There has been 55 police shootings in UK in past 24 years compared 640 people shot by police this year in the US.
The US average close to 1,000 people shot by police every year in the US.
And there been several people arrested just for threatening the bad guy breaking into your home in the UK. Not stabbing just threatening the bad guy with a knife.
The UK is not culture difference it is complete culture difference for both public and the police.
Read up on the retreat law vs stand your ground law. Read up on police officers getting arrested in the UK and Canada for shooting suspect armed with knife. Where courts saying the police officers should of moved out of harms way and called in Special response unit that could of tased the suspect or had police shield. Where normally courts say unless suspect walks or runs after the police officer shooting is not justified.
A complete culture difference. This would be joke in US public eye for even the liberals. Where you are armed and I tell you to drop it and you don't I shoot and case is closed.
Yeah… maybe don't try to lecture on the UK's laws and culture either… nor anything to do with LEO's, the law itself, or anything of the kind. You're really not in any position to do so.
What do you mean? If police show up at burglary call and the bad guy is stabbed it is up to you to argue in court you could not retreat. That is why many states in the US that do not have the stand your ground law say the retreat law is up for debate in court as you have to prove it. That I cannot retreat and I thought the bad guy was going to kill me and thus I stabbed him or shot him.
If you can express sufficiently why it was necessary, and it is deemed to be proportionate, then yeah, that's what you say. The basic idea is predicated on "present ability"… can the aggressor make good on the threat to kill you? Do they have the means and opportunity? Can you not escape? Then yeah, lethal force is going to be seen as justified… but you have to make sure that it can be demonstrated when required.
Are hand guns not banned in the UK? I thought lot of police don't even have guns in the UK?
Weren't you trying to give stats on police shootings in the UK? How do you think they are shooting people if they don't have guns?!?
Can you buy sword in the UK?
Considering some of my friends in the UK who train in sword arts, I'm going to say yes… but here's the thing… none of them are buying swords for self defence… because they're not delusional lunatics… lunatics, sure, but not delusional (hi, Scott!).
