School bans pupils from doing cartwheels

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School bans pupils from doing cartwheels

A school has banned pupils from doing cartwheels and handstands in the playground.


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By Daily Telegraph reporter
Last Updated: 7:39AM BST 27 Aug 2008

Students were told that all unsupervised gymnastic movements outdoors were not allowed in an effort to protect the children from injury.
The move has caused such a backlash from parents the school is now being forced to review its decision after the education minister suggested it should be overturned.
Belgian Gardens State School in Townsville, Queensland, came under fire when it announced the policy recently.
Kylie Buschgens said her 10-year-old daughter had been punished for doing cartwheels, even on the grass, after students were told of the ban at a recent assembly. She said that her daughter and other students now "sit around and do nothing" during breaks because they are not interested in other sports.
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Nanny state stuff like this is part and parcel of socialism.
 

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I can understand the need to try to protect students from injury but I think some schools are going to far in this regard. It sounds more like the school is afraid of being sued if someone gets accidentally hurt.
Why not just take out all activity that might possibly promote health, physical activity, and the possibility of burning of some of that “energy” that kids have.
 

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Oh, how retarded.

I guess the school district should hire social workers to supervise the children's gymnastic moves on the playground. And they can pry into their religious beliefs and home life while they're at it.
 

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I can understand the need to try to protect students from injury but I think some schools are going to far in this regard. It sounds more like the school is afraid of being sued if someone gets accidentally hurt.
Why not just take out all activity that might possibly promote health, physical activity, and the possibility of burning of some of that “energy” that kids have.


Exactly...that is what the world has come to. The lawyers have brainwashed us into suing for every little thing. What the heck...accidents will happen and that is all they are...accidents.

I remember in grade school breaking my arm while playing pilot off the swingset. The school nurse got me to hospital and parents was called. There was no malice on the school's part...just me being a kid and being dumb...No lawyers involved. I recovered just fine and actually continued to play on the swings with a little better respect. Basically, it was a plain old accident.

The lawyers have our brains twisted into believing there is no such thing as an accident...there is always someone at fault that has to pay. Pure greed...in my opinion. And it takes away the ability of a kid to be a kid.
 

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What? Banning only cartwheels? Kids should be tied to their chairs the moment they enter, and they should only be transported in those chairs by teachers... Hey, think about all the possible accidents caused by... uhm... doors, that's it, doors kill people. Pencils are even worse!
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I would write a logical response, but not so long ago I was literally rolling on the floor laughing.
 

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Nanny state stuff like this is part and parcel of socialism.

Umm... WHAT?

How on earth are you connecting cartwheels to socialism? The US Republican party in all its socialism hating glory has its own nanny state rules as well it likes to push.

This selective vision can really be amazing...
 

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Umm... WHAT?

How on earth are you connecting cartwheels to socialism? The US Republican party in all its socialism hating glory has its own nanny state rules as well it likes to push.

This selective vision can really be amazing...
Indeed. :)
 

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Nanny state stuff like this is part and parcel of socialism.

This has nothing to do with a "nanny state" or "socialism" as you well know, and everything to do with protecting the school from liability. Call it what you will, that isn't socialism (nor is it capitalism for that matter).

Not every square peg in this big 'ol world will fit into the round hole of your political views.
 

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Ritalin! Ritalin, Valium and 'ludes, that'll take care of all this unseemly mirth and frivolity!
 

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Yeah this b.s is from my country and its all about the school trying to protect itself from being sued by idiot parents.

What makes it even more stupid is that there is also a big push on to reduce childhood obesity , so they are contradicting themselves.
The layers of cotton wool getting wrapped around kids is getting thicker and thicker everyday , i am 41 now and it makes me think how people my age ever made it to adulthood .

When we were these kids age we used to play tackle rugby league on a field that was more dirt and rocks than grass , wrestling , brandings (throwing a tennis ball at each other ) , cricket with a proper cricket ball and tons of other equally hazardous games .

As far as i know we are all still alive , i think the world is going insane and i don't know how we can stop it.
 

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Point #1 - While I think that this is stupid....I see the need for it. In fact, I would submit that rules like this exist because of the parents, not the school administration. We now live in a society where a teacher, school district and state can and WILL be sued if a teacher hurts a child's feelings. The school has the right and responsibility to protect itself from lawsuits. There was once a time when we were governed by reason and common sense...and more importantly a sense of responsibility (i.e. if your child does a cartwheel, falls and hurts him/herself....it is THEIR OWN FAULT, not the school's). But no more...now we live in a world where if you make a stupid mistake, you can use the courts to get someone else to pay for it.

Point #2 - I see NO relation here to socialism. Sorry....that's really reaching to make a connection. There is most certainly a distinction between total state control of all aspects of life and the concept of socialism.
 
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Point #2 - I see NO relation here to socialism. Sorry....that's really reaching to make a connection. There is most certainly a distinction between total state control of all aspects of life and the concept of socialism.
Which is exactly how those nations identifying themselves as socialist were and are run.
 

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Which is exactly how those nations identifying themselves as socialist were and are run.

I think that you are referring to communist governments which are loosely based on socialist ideals.

The actual concept of socialism refers only to to control of goods and services. It is an economic idea that has been very badly implemented. Unfortunately, those countries must control other aspects of people's lives to make their communist or even socialist ideals to work. People won't accept it on their own. The elimination of private property is a hard thing to make people accept.

So on that basis, again, the banning of cartwheeling is not an economic idea. It isn't even a restriction put in place to control people to keep them within the government's system.....It is protection, plain and simple.
 

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Which is exactly how those nations identifying themselves as socialist were and are run.

Yeah, and things like secret prisons, government eavesdropping, torture... I mean "enhanced interrogation", large standing armies, using military force to impose there doctrines on other countries where also features of those governments you are referring too. Now where else have I seen those things... pretty sure they are not exclusive to socialist governments... nor are protect your butt rules by administrators, in fact I'd say those rules come more when you have a heavily litigious society, something those socialist governments didn't.
 

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BigDon, you're not here for the martial arts are you?
 

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BigDon, you're not here for the martial arts are you?

I imagine he's here for martial arts AND discussion on other topics, just like others here who start threads on whether gays are natural or drugs should be legalized. It's just that Don is coming at it from a different point of view.
 

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What? Banning only cartwheels? Kids should be tied to their chairs the moment they enter, and they should only be transported in those chairs by teachers... Hey, think about all the possible accidents caused by... uhm... doors, that's it, doors kill people. Pencils are even worse!
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I would write a logical response, but not so long ago I was literally rolling on the floor laughing.

Good idea, tie them to a chair. Maybe chairs that have wheels on them so they can go to class to class without having to untie them.
 

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The good thing is that solutions to the liability and lawyer problem exist. Some countries have instituted a sales tax that pays for any and all accidents for anyone...but you give up almost any right to sue. Sanctions for stupidity in those places depend on democratic laws and not slick lawyers. I don't know if it would work in the US, but it's just a thought.
 

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The good thing is that solutions to the liability and lawyer problem exist. Some countries have instituted a sales tax that pays for any and all accidents for anyone...but you give up almost any right to sue. Sanctions for stupidity in those places depend on democratic laws and not slick lawyers. I don't know if it would work in the US, but it's just a thought.


Don't think it would work in the U. S. The lawyers would lobby against it. They owuld stand to lose too much money.
 

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