Master

[MartialArtist]

Originally posted by Yiliquan1
Important point to remember here - while in Japan there are titles such as shihan, hanshi, kyoshi and renshi, they are never used as a form of address! You may refer to someone in writing with those titles, but you would never call someone "Shihan/Hanshi/Kyoshi/Renshi So-and-so." Sensei is just fine, and is a form of address common not only to martial arts, but to school teachers, tutors, doctors, dentists and attorneys... Don't even get me started on the imaginary title of soke... :angry:



And I think that is the whole point. The only schools I know of that routinely make use of the title "master" are Korean schools, and bad schools of other national origins... Everytime I have walked into a school where the teacher was advertised as "Master So-and-so," or met someone who said "I'm Master So-and-so," the experience ended badly (usually with the revelation that the so-called master was far from being worthy of such a title). I am not going to address the Korean martial arts usage of the term - I have never studied anything with a Korean origin, and I don't want to misrepresent nor insult anyone who has. Suffice it to say that it is about even money whether "master" is appropriate or not when dealing with Korean martial arts "masters..."



The only "computer experts" I have run into were the same people everyone warned me against letting anywhere near my computer...

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

In the Korean arts, 9th degree is referred as Grand Master. But GM is merely a title, like doctor, and every GM I met never considered themselves as mastering the art. Actually, they do the opposite, saying that nobody can master the art.

 

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by chufeng
Then change it to "Really OK with Blades."
:rofl:
chufeng

You know what, I might just take you up on that

 

[jfarnsworth]

Originally posted by Master of Blades
You know what, I might just take you up on that

How about "The martial artist formerly known as The Master of Blades". :shrug: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
How about "The martial artist formerly known as The Master of Blades". :shrug: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thats not bad either..........I'm still thinking I should have put a "The" at the beginning of my name is its

THE Master Of Blades

 

[fringe_dweller]

What about GM Blade?

Respectfully,

 

[Johnathan Napalm]

Safety Blade!

 

[Master of Blades]

All good.......anymore suggestions?

:asian:

 

[SRyuFighter]

Seriousily Sharp Blades

 

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by SRyuFighter
Seriousily Sharp Blades

Alright if I get a good one....I will change my name lol. Cuz some of these are just too cool

 

[Kiz Bell]

Jack of all blades, Master of none.

 

[fringe_dweller]

Originally posted by Kiz Bell
Jack of all blades, Master of none.

Kiz you rock my world.

For those of you who remember the early 80's - "Bladerunner"

 

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by Kiz Bell
Jack of all blades, Master of none.

Are you questioning my Masterdom? :shrug:

 

[jfarnsworth]

Originally posted by Master of Blades
Are you questioning my Masterdom? :shrug:

Yep!!! :rofl:

 

[D.Cobb]

When I first met my instructor, he said, "Hi my name is Frank."

After training at the school for a while, and wondering who the mysterious 'Master Monea' that the bbs all spoke about was, I found out that they were the same man.

I asked him how he should be refered to and he said, whatever makes you feel comfortable. In class he is always senseii. If I wish to introduce someone or ask, what seems to be, a difficult question, he is Master. If we meet whilst sociallising, he is either Frank, or Sir.

His official rank is Master. All of the above terms are my choice.

--Dave

:asian:

 

[Matt Stone]

I suppose my issue with the title "master" is with the folks that force its use on others... "Hi, I'm Master Bob."

It is a pet peeve of mine when folks that are terminally monolingual pretend to a) know the terms they are using in their real use and context, b) know how to pronounce the terms, and c) be able to use them however they want without any degree of responsibility. When I see folks that refer to themselves as "Shihan roku-dan Soke Grandmaster," and they pronounce it like "shee-han (not hahn) rokoo-dan (not dahn) sokee (instead of sokay)," I just cringe. To quote another MT member from another thread, their "ignorance causes me physical pain."

So when I run into the questionable folks that tell their students "you will call me X," I wince at the teacher's presumption and the student's gullibility. This is the root of my problem with the term "master."

Dave's example is tolerable, though I have to admit I would still have trouble referring to his teacher as "master." Sensei, fine. Mister, no worries. Master? Only if he is 6 years old...

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

 

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
Yep!!! :rofl:

 

[stone_dragone]

Personal thoughts on the matter...It is a term to describe a third party, not to describe yourself.

It indicates the highest level of proficiency and experience, not perfection.

It is, and should remain a term of awe.

 

[pstarr]

I rarely call anyone "Master." I certainly don't tolerate anyone calling me by that title. I'm just an old fart.

 

[green meanie]

I don't believe anyone should call themselves 'master', as in "How do you do, I'm Master So-and-so". It's an honorific bestowed onto you by others, not by yourself.

Cthulhu

Agreed. :asian:

 

[Fluffy]

Matters on the org in which it represents. I hold the title of master but don't require anyone but my students to call me such.