Master

[Tez3]

I wonder if we know the same female farrier! Is she French, a film maker, was once the Dalia Lama’s right hand person, a golf professional, didn't quite finish medical school, worked in Paris fashion and lives in Sutton Coldfield?

Sadly no, she sounds fantastic.

Meet North Yorkshire’s Sarah-Mary Brown - the only female master farrier in the country

Being a master farrier is a highly valuable skill and Sarah-Mary Brown is the only woman with the title in the country. Tony Greenbank went to see her. Pictures by James Hardisty.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk

 

[tkdroamer]

I know two actual masters, one of whom is female. They are farriers who have passed their Guild examinations and can be called Master Farriers. The
In the UK we still have Guilds who award 'rank' in their trades. The Guilds along with the Livery Companies go back centuries, the oldest is 867 years.
We have Master Stone Masons, Master Chimney Sweeps, Master Farriers, Master Cutlets etc. The Livery Company Dick Whittington joined is still going strong by the way.
Master to me is someone who has done their time as apprentice, journeyman then is tested to be called master. It shouldn't be different in martial arts but some people do like being called master sadly, without worrying about earning it.
Mistress, the word is used a lot in the UK but is pronounced "missus".

One of my best friends is a master farrier. He is one of the quietest guys I know and can walk up to almost any horse/mule/donkey. A true horse whisperer.
In the states, the 'Master' moniker is much the same as you describe. But seldom do you hear someone address themselves as a 'master' anything. It is usually listed in their credentials or mentioned upon request.

I think part of the difference when it comes to the martial arts is that laypeople expect a master in martial arts to be something flashy, which is usually far from the norm.
People who have shortcut the process as you describe are hopefully debunked in short order. I hope the idea that since "it is on a website so it must be true" has long been proven as thin at best.

 

[GojuTommy]

I was just wondering how you all use the term "master" and what you think of it's use.
Personally, i think its innappropriate.

I don’t use it.
I think it’s stupid and a western creation.

I don’t believe any Asian martial arts use any term that translates into master.

I know 1 guy that goes by master, but it’s a pun because his last name is Locke, so he doesn’t even use it seriously.

Also I think it sends a very weird message due to the way Asian martial arts tend to have their power structures within the training space set up.

Ever notice no one ever refers to a boxing coach as a ‘master’? Same for pretty much all western or more modern martial arts/combat sports.