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[Gyakuto104]

Gym etiquette-

1) Don’t drop your dumbbells/benches down heavily. It damages/loosens the securings and it quite alarming if it’s done near your head. It’s disrespectful to the equipment, the owners and the other users, thereof.

2) When I’m using one side of the cable machine, please ask if it’s OK to use the other side, especially if you’re dragging a bench across the intervening space requiring me to adjust my training position.

3) When moving around the various machines I’m using, do not squeeze past or dart just behind, or to my side, invading my personal space. It’s rude and potentially dangerous not least as it might elicit a defensive movement from me. You’re there to exercise so consider adding 0.3sec to your journey time and walk around the machine.

4) Wipe down the apparatus after you’ve used it. Our hospitals are currently filled with patients with flu/COVID/RSV/Norovirus so don’t potentially spread your viruses around, plus your sweat which, for some reason smells like a meaty stew/hotpot.

 

[Gyakuto104]

Garden centre - lots of people walking around - coughing without covering their mouths. They looked were older than me. Do they still teach basic good health habits at school?

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

I'm collecting all the degrees my society doesn't value. I have a BA in sculpture and an MA in art history. Next I'm gonna get a B.Th if all goes well and when I'm working as a priest I plan to do a BA in some sort of science with the open university. But it would have to be some despised branch of science that rightwingers hate, like pure mathematics or conservation

 

[Gyakuto104]

Snow and freezing rain is hitting the U.K. overnight and the media are whipping up their usual dire warnings of doom and making some people panic. It is winter, after all and we live in Northern climes. Here is Devon, however, there’s not even a frost forecast

 

[Gyakuto104]

I'm collecting all the degrees my society doesn't value. I have a BA in sculpture and an MA in art history.

They’re not valued because they’re seen as ‘hobby subjects’; subjects that people do for fun at home and don’t directly lead to employment that contributes to society via tax revenue!

Next I'm gonna get a B.Th if all goes well and when I'm working as a priest I plan to do a BA in some sort of science with the open university. But it would have to be some despised branch of science that rightwingers hate, like pure mathematics or conservation

It’d be a BSc if you’re doing a science. Maths can be either, I believe. My retired cosmologist friend (who’s PhD supervisor was Stephan Hawkins) is hoping to do a PhD in Pure maths for some reason.

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

Ah yes, silly me a BsC. Which don't usually directly lead to employment either. Few people end up actually working in their fields. Honestly, it used to be the left that valued only the 'proletarian sciences', now the right are the ignoramus phillistines. As God and nature intended, I suppose. The irony is that the skills you learn at art college such as research, organising yourself and others, designing processes, documenting those processes etc. are extremely valuable in industry.

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

Look at it this way: We don't value philosophy, so we have politicians who can't think. We don't value literature, so we have authors who can't write. We don't value art, so we have artists who can't draw. We don't value music, so we end up with musicians who are basically just dopamine thieves who can't sing. We don't value tech subjects in schools so we end up with engineers who don't know what 'annealing' is. True story. A bloke I know helps design and make parts for the space industry, and one of the kids at his company designed a part with a copper gasket. When asked if he was going to anneal it he replied 'What's annealing?'.

 

[Gyakuto104]

Ah yes, silly me a BsC. Which don't usually directly lead to employment either. Few people end up actually working in their fields.

That’s very true. But would The Tesco prefer a science graduate shelf stacker or a fine arts graduate. Science graduates are used to getting out of bed for 9am lectures, after all.

The irony is that the skills you learn at art college such as research, organising yourself and others, designing processes, documenting those processes etc. are extremely valuable in industry.

I wonder why employers don’t realise that?

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

That’s very true. But would The Tesco prefer a science graduate shelf stacker or a fine arts graduate. Science graduates are used to getting out of bed for 9am lectures, after all.

Myth. My critical and contextual studies lectures at art college began at 8.30 AM, which I would attend having already done half a day's work in the workshop and slept for an hour or so before arriving at college.

I wonder why employers don’t realise that?

Because they're generally rightwingers, who see the arts as leftwing subjects? They don't fund the arts because the portrayal of the right in the arts is seldom positive. I wonder why?

 

[Gyakuto104]

Look at it this way: We don't value philosophy, so we have politicians who can't think.

Philosophy, Politics and Economics is one of the most common amongst U.K. politicians!

We don't value literature, so we have authors who can't write.

I’m sure the most successful authors don’t have degrees in English literature; English language would better better.

We don't value art, so we have artists who can't draw.

Especially if they’ve gone to art school and just do those video installations

We don't value tech subjects in schools so we end up with engineers who don't know what 'annealing' is.

I think they learn that at Uni, don’t they?

True story. A bloke I know helps design and make parts for the space industry, and one of the kids at his company designed a part with a copper gasket. When asked if he was going to anneal it he replied 'What's annealing?'.

After heating, copper is annealed by plunging it is cold water…the opposite of steel.I learned that from Alec Steele on Youtube

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

Philosophy, Politics and Economics is one of the most common amongst U.K. politicians!

Yes, and appalling philosophy with a right wing bent at that.

 

[Gyakuto104]

Myth. My critical and contextual studies lectures at art college began at 8.30 AM, which I would attend having already done half a day's work in the workshop and slept for an hour or so before arriving at college.

Why don’t art students look out of the window in the morning? Because then they’d have nothing to do in the afternoon!

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

The point is I've gathered from talking to people who did PPE and then started working retail and not getting anywhere in their lives- which, unless you have influential friends and family is their most likely fate- that the 'philosophy' taught therein is extremely lightweight, and has a rather obnoxious right wing bent. Granted, I think that the labour party has become a rightwing institution because I'm somewhere to the left of Stalin, but there you go. What's more economics is largely a load of crap- which I was told, straight up, by a succesful businessman who employed me until quite recently, and politics these days seems to centre mostly on seeing how much money you can make for your dodgy friends before either they give you a job in the city or you make loads of money as an after dinner speaker. Which is fine as far as it goes, but it doesn't give you the right to despise people who spent their time in university writing essays on good philosophy as applied to artistic practice, drawing for thousands of hours and learning anatomy.

 

[Gyakuto104]

The point is I've gathered from talking to people who did PPE and then started working retail and not getting anywhere in their lives- which, unless you have influential friends and family is their most likely fate- that the 'philosophy' taught therein is extremely lightweight, and has a rather obnoxious right wing bent. Granted, I think that the labour party has become a rightwing institution because I'm somewhere to the left of Stalin, but there you go. What's more economics is largely a load of crap- which I was told, straight up, by a succesful businessman who employed me until quite recently, and politics these days seems to centre mostly on seeing how much money you can make for your dodgy friends before either they give you a job in the city or you make loads of money as an after dinner speaker. Which is fine as far as it goes, but it doesn't give you the right to despise people who spent their time in university writing essays on good philosophy as applied to artistic practice, drawing for thousands of hours and learning anatomy.

Anatomy, eh? Which is the longest and shortest skeletal muscle in the human body? No Googooru san Now drawn them

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

Fiddlesticked if I know, I graduated 16 years ago and these days I do landscapes. But there was also welding, carving both stone and wood, plaster casting, mould making, modelling in clay (the sculptural kind, not the pottery kind)...

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

The annoying bit being that when I think over it, if I'd done all the things I did in the right order and joined them up properly, as I now know how to do, I would probably have got a first rather than a 2:1, but that's schizophrenia for you....

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

Colour theory, paint technology, bronze casting, iron casting....

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

To be fair there was also a very large and extremely popular smoking, drinking and womanising module but you don't need to hear about that...

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

Oh, and I took photography and gay sex as an elective. But according to you, we were all gazing out the window the whole time....

 

[Buka20]

Garden centre - lots of people walking around - coughing without covering their mouths. They looked were older than me. Do they still teach basic good health habits at school?

Or at home?