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Gonna have to have one handy I think for next time!

If that isn't big enough, you will need a Howitzer
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But to go bigger than that would be ridiculous
 

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Not sure looking at that whether it's a sweet or savory pie. I could see it going either way.

I'd give it a go. Did you try it? If so, how was it?
I had the mango pie. That was a first for me also. Pretty good!
 
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being dragged unconscious through miles of water.
I know, being awake would have been worse.
Still a nightmare.
The team was 2.5 miles into the cave system, but most of that path was out of the water.
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I doubt that would really make it less frightening. But surgery is the stuff of nightmares too. Except it generally isn't. You're sitting on the beach. You get a shot. Now you're out. Being awake would have been a million times worse and would absolutely have resulted in deaths.

Bear in mind that you cannot really trust the accuracy of the reporting. For example, they constantly refer to "oxygen tanks". Breathing oxygen under water is quite toxic. They were breathing air, just like you.

My views on this are probably skewed a bit both by spending too many years in the ER and by being a cave diver.
 

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I had the mango pie. That was a first for me also. Pretty good!
Right on. That sounds good, too. If someone told me to make a mango pie, I think I'd go with something along the lines of a peach pie... Mango has that flesh kind of like a peach or apricot.
 

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Been in Florida all week.... you want a workout.... try and keep up with two 18 year olds and lwo late 20 year olds for 4 days...Magic Kingdom.... Epcot..... Animal Kingdom...... Hollywood.... on the 5th day...today...is the first time I have been able to relax since I got here...and most of this day was in a coma trying to recover......AND we are heading home tomorrow..... to 13 inches of snow in my driveway....... I will need a vacation from this vacation....
 

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Been in Florida all week.... you want a workout.... try and keep up with two 18 year olds and lwo late 20 year olds for 4 days...Magic Kingdom.... Epcot..... Animal Kingdom...... Hollywood.... on the 5th day...today...is the first time I have been able to relax since I got here...and most of this day was in a coma trying to recover......AND we are heading home tomorrow..... to 13 inches of snow in my driveway....... I will need a vacation from this vacation....
Sounds like fun.
 

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The team was 2.5 miles into the cave system, but most of that path was out of the water.
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I doubt that would really make it less frightening. But surgery is the stuff of nightmares too. Except it generally isn't. You're sitting on the beach. You get a shot. Now you're out. Being awake would have been a million times worse and would absolutely have resulted in deaths.

Bear in mind that you cannot really trust the accuracy of the reporting. For example, they constantly refer to "oxygen tanks". Breathing oxygen under water is quite toxic. They were breathing air, just like you.

My views on this are probably skewed a bit both by spending too many years in the ER and by being a cave diver.
well, true. Kinda like having your 'caves' explored. You are up, joking with the nurses, then you are out in recovery.
Just reading the descriptions was uh, nope.
 

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Been in Florida all week.... you want a workout.... try and keep up with two 18 year olds and lwo late 20 year olds for 4 days...Magic Kingdom.... Epcot..... Animal Kingdom...... Hollywood.... on the 5th day...today...is the first time I have been able to relax since I got here...and most of this day was in a coma trying to recover......AND we are heading home tomorrow..... to 13 inches of snow in my driveway....... I will need a vacation from this vacation....
Epcot is my favorite there,2nd is universal. I only been to epcot once, my younger brother went back to Orlando a few times since we grown up and had great times, I was jealous a bit, not Mad but sad I couldn't go too.
 

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The team was 2.5 miles into the cave system, but most of that path was out of the water.
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I doubt that would really make it less frightening. But surgery is the stuff of nightmares too. Except it generally isn't. You're sitting on the beach. You get a shot. Now you're out. Being awake would have been a million times worse and would absolutely have resulted in deaths.

Bear in mind that you cannot really trust the accuracy of the reporting. For example, they constantly refer to "oxygen tanks". Breathing oxygen under water is quite toxic. They were breathing air, just like you.

My views on this are probably skewed a bit both by spending too many years in the ER and by being a cave diver.
I'd be terrified just being trapped in a cave. But being hauled out conscious would make it worse for anxiety.
 
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I'd be terrified just being trapped in a cave. But being hauled out conscious would make it worse for anxiety.
Unconscious people really are not anxious. Especially when the drugs used to sedate them are anxiolytics and amnestic.
 

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Mrs Xue paid Delta for round trip tickets to Alaska for a summer vacation..... after she made the reservations and confirmed the reservations they instantaneously changed the boarding time...... now a month later, after all other plans are made with connections to a cruise....the changed the date of the flight to a day earlier.... that we can't do, work conflicts and no hotel reservation to spend the night there...Then as she is talking to them about this she discovers that they changed are return flight to a day earlier.....we won't even be there.... and now they don't want to refund any money.....
 
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Mrs Xue paid Delta for round trip tickets to Alaska for a summer vacation..... after she made the reservations and confirmed the reservations they instantaneously changed the boarding time...... now a month later, after all other plans are made with connections to a cruise....the changed the date of the flight to a day earlier.... that we can't do, work conflicts and no hotel reservation to spend the night there...Then as she is talking to them about this she discovers that they changed are return flight to a day earlier.....we won't even be there.... and now they don't want to refund any money.....
This is, sadly, far too common. We sent one of our kids and his new wife to Cancun for their honeymoon last year. Their flights were changed SIX TIMES. Utter chaos.
 

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