3 moves to finish

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

Many years ago, the CMA magazine "New Wu Xia 新武侠" had a section called "3 moves to finish 三招了". It contains how to finish a fight by using 3 moves combo. Today, I try to collect/create as many "3 moves combos" as I can. It's a lot of fun.

Some 3 move combo can be in the same category (kick, punch, lock, throw).

- left front kick, right roundhouse kick, right side kick.
- Right hook punch, right back fist, left uppercut.
- Wrist lock, wrist cut, wrist pull.
- Leg twist, leg lift, leg break.
- ...

Some 3 moves combo can be mix categories:

- Groin kick, face punch, front cut throw.
- Elbow lock, shoulder lock, leg spring throw.
- ...

Not sure today's AI contain this information or not. Someone has to feed this information into a database for AI to learn.

Would you like to share your favor 3 moves combos?

 

[skribs136 156]

That's a rather arbitrary number. Most of the combos I learned in Taekwondo were more than 3 moves. It was usually a 5-step process:

1. Block
2. Grab
3. Strike
4. Take-down
5. Finish

I took one class at a Hapkido school that said you should end every fight in one strike, and commit to that strike fully so that it is more likely to finish the fight in one strike.

In my BJJ training, you often have moves that have 7 steps to just to get one grip correct in order to start setting up the move.

 

[Buka45 2]

Uppercut, left hook, alabi.

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

Uppercut, left hook, alabi.

Is uppercut good to be used as the 1st move? IMO, the jab, hook, and back fist are better to be used for the 1st move. Uppercut, overhand, and hammer fist may not be suitable to be used as the 1st move.

 

[Buka45 2]

As always, it depends. I don’t usually engage until my space has been violated in a way I deem dangerous.

And a lot of Americans lean their face forward in way that’s supposed to intimidate.

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

As always, it depends. I don’t usually engage until my space has been violated in a way I deem dangerous.

And a lot of Americans lean their face forward in way that’s supposed to intimidate.

You assume your opponent has already passed your kicking range and enter your punching range.

- Is this the normal case, or special case?
- Should we allow a stranger to be that close to our body?
- How to prevent this from happening?

When I walk, I like to protect my kicking range. If anybody gets closer, I'll move back. This kind of alert just builds into my body system. Back from where I came from, the firearm was not available. People usually carry knife. Of course, we are not talking about passengers inside a bus situation.

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

That's a rather arbitrary number. Most of the combos I learned in Taekwondo were more than 3 moves. It was usually a 5-step process:

1. Block
2. Grab
3. Strike
4. Take-down
5. Finish

I use similar 5-step process:

1. Kick
2. Punch
3. Clinch
4. Throw
5. Follow on strike

I assume all fight start from outside of the kicking range.

 

[Buka45 2]

You assume your opponent has already passed your kicking range and enter your punching range.

- Is this the normal case, or special case?
- Should we allow a stranger to be that close to our body?
- How to prevent this from happening?

When I walk, I like to protect my kicking range. If anybody gets closer, I'll move back. It just builds into my body system. Of course, we are not talking about passengers inside a bus situation.

I assume nothing. I live in several worlds, one as a cop in an airport, and one as an old man on a tropical island. I don’t care where anyone goes, they do so at their own risk.

I’d rather fight in “the kitchen” than I would in kicking range. I like the kitchen.

 

[isshinryuronin27 26]

As always, it depends. I don’t usually engage until my space has been violated in a way I deem dangerous.

Are you speaking of a situation from the viewpoint of:

An LEO?
Tournament competitor?
Street self-defense?

Other factors include opponent size and fighting style/training (if you know).

And you can manage distance to your liking when possible.

As you say, "it depends." Many variables.

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

I assume nothing. I live in several worlds, one as a cop in an airport, and one as an old man on a tropical island. I don’t care where anyone goes, they do so at their own risk.

I’d rather fight in “the kitchen” than I would in kicking range. I like the kitchen.

My MA teacher was a secret agent. He taught me the following.

- Never shake hand with a stranger when he uses both hands to shake your single hand.
- Never let a stranger to close car door for you. He may use car door to break your leg.
- Never let a stranger to touch your shoulder.
- Alway use side way stance to stand in front of a stranger to avoid groin kick.
- When drink tea with a stranger, always prepare that he will throw hot tea at your face.
- Always sit near the exit of a theatre in case of emergy.
- ...

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

And you can manage distance to your liking when possible.

When I did my 3 mile daily beach walking, if I detect someone who was behind of me and close enough, I will turn around, look at the scenery, and wait for that person to pass by. I will never let any stranger to be too close behind me.

One of my teacher's sons was stabbed and killed from behind. Even today, the police still didn't find the killer.

To prevent a problem from happening is better than to let the problem happen and then try to fix it.

 

[Buka45 2]

Are you speaking of a situation from the viewpoint of:

An LEO?
Tournament competitor?
Street self-defense?

Other factors include opponent size and fighting style/training (if you know).

And you can manage distance to your liking when possible.

As you say, "it depends." Many variables.

From all of them. Sometimes, anyway.

 

[Buka45 2]

My MA teacher was a secret agent. He taught me the following.

- Never shake hand with a stranger when he uses both hands to shake your single hand.
- Never let a stranger to close car door for you. He may use car door to break your leg.
- Never let a stranger to touch your shoulder.
- Alway use side way stance to stand in front of a stranger to avoid groin kick.
- When drink tea with a stranger, always prepare that he will throw hot tea at your face.
- Always sit near the exit of a theatre in case of emergy.
- ...

The stranger would be wise to fear us more than we fear him. Otherwise he becomes just an old song.

Another One Bites the Dust.

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

The stranger would be wise to fear us more than we fear him.

If you (general YOU) are the bad guy, the earth are filled with all good guys. The earth will be a safe and friendly place to live.

A: Dear teacher! Do you teach self-defense?
B: I teach how to make your opponent to defense himself.

 

[Buka45 2]

All the way-older guys here who think in decades of training as opposed to years of training know. (If we can remember. Not always a given)

And even though it’s become a politically incorrect term these days, we profile exceptionally well. Everyone profiles. It’s human nature.

To use the most extreme example, we don’t think of an elderly, blue haired woman slowly approaching using a walker, the same way we think of a twitchy twenty something year old with something obviously under his shirt walking towards us.

Anyone who grew up somewhat hard knows. As do experienced Martial Artists. There’s a certain decorum in all dojos, regardless of style. There are certain behavioral patterns in dojos. When we see contrary behaviors outside we immediately pick up on them.

Can we be fooled? Sure, anyone can be fooled. But we notice behavior, dress, the effect of drugs and alcohol, the way people’s eyes search. Or don’t search. How they talk. How they smell.

We have built in ash hole detectors.

And most of the older Martial Artists I know analyze and measure anyone approaching. It’s not something they think about, it’s just habit.

 

[drop bear136 11]

You probably won't see an uppercut or an undercut if you are in range of it. Because it comes from a weird angle.

It is a legitimate first move for a sucker punch stye approach.

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

You probably won't see an uppercut or an undercut if you are in range of it. Because it comes from a weird angle.

It is a legitimate first move for a sucker punch stye approach.

Believe it or not, the 1st MA move that I have learned when I was 5 was:

- My opponent chokes on my throat with both hands.
- I lock my hands and make a big fist. I then use my big fist to do an uppercut at his chin, at the same time, I break his double hands choke (separate his arms in between). I then smash my big fist on top of his head when I groin kick at his nuts.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Many years ago, the CMA magazine "New Wu Xia 新武侠" had a section called "3 moves to finish 三招了". It contains how to finish a fight by using 3 moves combo. Today, I try to collect/create as many "3 moves combos" as I can. It's a lot of fun.

Some 3 move combo can be in the same category (kick, punch, lock, throw).

- left front kick, right roundhouse kick, right side kick.
- Right hook punch, right back fist, left uppercut.
- Wrist lock, wrist cut, wrist pull.
- Leg twist, leg lift, leg break.
- ...

Some 3 moves combo can be mix categories:

- Groin kick, face punch, front cut throw.
- Elbow lock, shoulder lock, leg spring throw.
- ...

Not sure today's AI contain this information or not. Someone has to feed this information into a database for AI to learn.

Would you like to share your favor 3 moves combos?

In General I think of 3 moves as.
First = Enter
Second = Land /Counter /escape - Technique
Third = Counter, Evade, Escape, Exit / Reset

For me this is a universal / foundational concept for all systems. It applies to footwork as well as striking..

3 Move Combos is not the limit. It's the basic. If you can't land a 3-move combo then anything higher than that will become a significant difficulty. Here's an example. If he has forth-move then he's not going to get it off. He has significant difficulty with 3-moves.

The guy in read is Jow Ga. Take note of the combos that he throws.

The beginner form in Jow Ga Kung Fu has a 3-move combo, that when done correctly, will easily break facial bone and most likely end most fights. I think some may misunderstand you that 3-move combos is not saying the maximum moves should be 3. But in terms of basics the student should be able to pull off a 3-move combo even if it doesn't end a fight. The 3-move combo that I learn as a beginner is much more dangerous now than when I was first learning. When I was first learning, I didn't know how to drive weight into my strikes. Now that I do it's a totally different outcome.

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

In General I think of 3 moves as.
First = Enter
Second = Land /Counter /escape - Technique
Third = Counter, Evade, Escape, Exit / Reset

For me this is a universal / foundational concept for all systems. It applies to footwork as well as striking..

It can also be as simple as:

1. Attack.
2. Take advantage on opponent's reaction.
3. Attack again.

1 and 3 are simple. 2 is the key.

When you apply 1,2,3, you are moving forward. In order to generate power when your body is dynamic moving, it's much harder than when your both feet are static on the ground.

 

[Kung Fu Wang137 167]

The beginner form in Jow Ga Kung Fu has a 3-move combo,

Taiji has a lot of 3 moves combo such as:

1. Back fist.
2. Deflect opponent's block.
3. Hammer fist.

This is why Taiji is a combat art.