Would you hit a woman who was unarmed?

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What has this got to do with martial arts and the thread?
Are such disgusting comments allowed on here?
It's a quote, which I said, from a British army site and why would you think it's disgusting? It's normal human behaviour.
 

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Please do elaborate.
Ok. The question itself is wrong, designed to get a certain type of answer.
It's not about gender but what is the appropriate action if attacked by anyone. Hitting is not always the best way forward, any technique you use has to be within the law of the land. In the UK law you are allowed to use reasonable force, to use a pre-emptive move if you are in fear of your life, that includes using a weapon.
There's plenty of threads on here detailing action/techniques to use, running away is sometimes an option, verbal judo another but when attacked, no one's gender is relevant, just your life is. Phrasing a question the way this one is phrased is missing all the points and reasons for self defence, one of them being awareness of your situation. Clearly that's a technique missing from some people's martial arts armoury. So, self defence techniques for all situations discussion follows in................
 

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you told me to go give my head a wobble, is that not bullying? are you not mobbing me out here with a couple of members? telling me i should.......

"go wobble your head, you織ve been here 2 minutes". what if i feel suicidle?? oh but wait you織re a woman aren織t you ? :rolleyes:
Remember you started writing to me on here.
Also to the young lady in question: do not write i am an ex "Squaddie" people like me find this an insult. ex soldier is the term used not guttural sexist slang.

@ the mods on here:
posting pictures of well trained cross fit girls is not sexist. It織s not my fault they look good and not like a 70 year old.
Oh come on. Dont throw your teddy in the corner just cuz you got a bite. I dont mind your banter but harden up. ;)
 

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You mean like Sean Connery style? No way man! Knife welding? Without hesitation. The real question is would you hit a pregnant man?
I'm gonna risk the ire of the alphabet squad and say there's no such creature.

As for the question, I recall I was in grade 7. 12 years old. Some girl in grade 6.. much smaller..wanted to fight me. I let her hit me several times...perplexed at how to react, until finally she stopped and walked off. I learned a lesson that day.

If someone wants to use violence it ceases..at that moment..to matter what genitals they happen to have.
 

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I think Deadpool said/asked it best...
That guy is definitely not my role model. In all seriousness, I don't understand how people let movies, pop culture and current society set their values.

I understand you are just sharing a meme, but I do think people to readily modify their morals based on what society at large says.
 

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That guy is definitely not my role model. In all seriousness, I don't understand how people let movies, pop culture and current society set their values.

I understand you are just sharing a meme, but I do think people to readily modify their morals based on what society at large says.
I agree with you, but movies, pop culture and current society are not setting everyone's values. Now, if you consider these things causing much of mass change in the women's culture then I get where you are coming from.

I don't see sex if you are coming at me with a knife.
 
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I agree with you, but movies, pop culture and current society are not setting everyone's values. Now, if you consider these things causing much of mass change in the women's culture then I get where you are coming from.

I don't see sex if you are coming at me with a knife.
My original post intentionally attempted to direct the conversation to an unarmed attack.
 

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That guy is definitely not my role model. In all seriousness, I don't understand how people let movies, pop culture and current society set their values.

I understand you are just sharing a meme, but I do think people to readily modify their morals based on what society at large says.
Do you have in mind that someone watched Deadpool and sorry what exactly?
 

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My original post intentionally attempted to direct the conversation to an unarmed attack.
An unarmed attack by a woman though, why would that be different from an unarmed attack by a man? You still have to respond using reasonable force otherwise you will be the one being charged by the police. Hitting someone isn't always the best solution, we've all read about those one punch fights that end with a dead person because that one punch caused them to fall hitting their head. Proportionate action is always the answer to any attack by anyone. Now, that action has been discussed many times here but it's always worth another. Take gender out of the discussion and it's a worthwhile exercise.
 

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I am of the opinion that a man never hits a woman never ever!!!!! Given that nature has given differences to each I could never ever run worth a $500 dollar bill does not mean I will not protect myself!!! Had this girl pick up a rock once she was going to bash my head in with it did not turn my back to her but begged and begged and begged some more for her to please put the rock down when that did not work I put her down on her back she then dropped the rock. This guy was standing right across the street watching the whole thing this was back in the 70s and the guy was old enough back then when men had more respect for women then they do today!!!!! He came over and asked what happened so told him the story he agreed that I had done the right thing does not mean it still does not bother me cause it does!!!! Even though it was the right thing to do!!!!
I think it would bother you if it were a man too. An altercation with anyone causes an adrenaline rush, the well known flight or fight thing. Being threatened is a scary thing, very few even experienced police officers don't get scared. However you dealt with it appropriately and that is good. Forget she was a woman, you successfully dealt with an attacker. The adrenaline dump after would have made you feel lousy.
'Respect for women' that's a tricky one, probably best for another thread but I will say that it should be 'respect for other human beings' go with that and you'll never be wrong.
 
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My original post intentionally attempted to direct the conversation to an unarmed attack.
Okay. If a someone is attacking me with intent to do harm, I do not see sex. I see size, strength, and level of attack.

I used to say I could embarrass someone, detain them, or hurt them. Nowadays, I would hopefully still have the latter option so the decision would be made very quickly. With great intent.
 

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I understand you are just sharing a meme, but I do think people to readily modify their morals based on what society at large says.
Yep. People modify their morals and behavior according to societal pressure. Is that wrong?

I mean, in in my great-great grampa's day it was OK for white folks to keep slaves, and in some places the government paid a bounty for killing vermin ...and Native Americans. Women couldn't vote and had very limited rights. In industrial cities, folks were paid a pittance to work in factories, 12 or more hours a day, six days a week under horrendous conditions ...and those were accepted social norms. o_O

Frankly, I'm glad we've been "modifying" our norms! ;)
 
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Yep. People modify their morals and behavior according to societal pressure. Is that wrong?

I mean, in in my great-great grampa's day it was OK for white folks to keep slaves, and in some places the government paid a bounty for killing vermin ...and Native Americans. Women couldn't vote and had very limited rights. In industrial cities, folks were paid a pittance to work in factories, 12 or more hours a day, six days a week under horrendous conditions ...and those were accepted social norms. o_O

Frankly, I'm glad we've been "modifying" our norms! ;)
Actually you are helping make my point that you can't draw your morals from current society norms. Then or now.
 

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It has been my experience that even a women that has been used and abused will some what come around and be nice and kind to some degree if treated right dont mean they will still not try and take advantage of ya to some degree. But a woman can give more love and kindness then they receive!!! Seems to be a innate thing!!!! And all the women I have talked with and all that I have studied seem to be lacking in self esteem when I questioned them about it they have pointed out that it has been a man as the culprit!!!!
 

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On another subject anybody else have problems with the black belt magazine subscription?
 

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It has been my experience that even a women that has been used and abused will some what come around and be nice and kind to some degree if treated right dont mean they will still not try and take advantage of ya to some degree. But a woman can give more love and kindness then they receive!!! Seems to be a innate thing!!!! And all the women I have talked with and all that I have studied seem to be lacking in self esteem when I questioned them about it they have pointed out that it has been a man as the culprit!!!!
What in the world are you smoking!!!!? What planet of misogyny are you from?!!! Read your post out loud in the mirror!!!! Please, please PLEASE!!!! Stop using !!!! On phrases you would not be orating at the very top of your lungs!!! It seems to be an innate thing!!!
 

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What in the world are you smoking!!!!? What planet of misogyny are you from?!!! Read your post out loud in the mirror!!!! Please, please PLEASE!!!! Stop using !!!! On phrases you would not be orating at the very top of your lungs!!! It seems to be an innate thing!!!
Well went with my father once to see his friend laying in his casket who had been blown away by his wife found out the guy had abused his wife for many years, she had enough!!! Knew this other guy who mentally abused his girlfriend one time she just broke down and started crying upon leaving he told her not to do anything cause he did not want blood on his carpet. This other guy would haul off and hit his wife as hard as he could even when they where playing around, I am a preachers kid so maybe seen and heard more then others have but in instance after instance these women have put up with months and even years of abuse and they still love the abuser. The last lady I dealt with her husband beats her and she found porno on his cell phone they been married three years and she still loves him. Time after time after time they still love him. In that instance they suffer abuse after abuse and more abuse but they still love them, that is giving more love then love they are receiving.
 
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