Would this work?
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ballen0351
Sr. Grandmaster
So you giving up training and going to carry a jar everywhere?
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
"Have you ever tried to grapple when your scared out of your mind and fighting for your life feet from a gun with a guy that wants to kill you? I havent and dont think I could pull it off. I know it can be hard to even handcuff a compliant guy when your adrenalin is dumped. Its a totally different level of a dump when your fighting fo your life vs training or competitions you may be able to pull it off."
i can grapple when fighting for my life that girl could. The wrestler could. I know of other who can. And could find examples of chokes working in life or death fights.
so if you don't think chokes are a good idea street vs sport is going to be a non starter.
Pickled onions, now they are worth fighting for! Pickled eggs not so much as for pickled gherkins never ever, I think you could force feed them to an attacker and be charged with attempted murder!
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
no i am going to train jar fighting to add to my tool box.
thinking a bit like ekky yhump
drop bear
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drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
if you are style bashing ecky thump there will be issues.
Hanzou
Grandmaster
Well nothing trumps the effectiveness of a shin kick to the throat followed by a heel stomp to the chest, but it's always good to have a plan B.
ballen0351
Sr. Grandmaster
No Im saying a choke is harder to do and easier to defend esp when your scared half to death. A kick is much easier and higher %age move and easier to repeat over and over
I for can. No I am not going to try anything either!
Funny that you would pick the Goodies. Hope you not suggesting that all Brits are crazy and that we have giant Kittens in our gardens lol
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
the choke has a positional advantage. Because even if the choke does not knock someone out you are still controlling his body. You don't have to rely on it working off the bat or you loose your next shot.
the kick has to work or you can't repeat it. Because he will just stand up. The only thing holding him there is that kick.
with the choke. He has to defend that and then escape from that position. There is two attacks going on.
you seem to be the only person who cant apply a choke under stress.
Ferguson guy managed it. And that was life or death. A kangaroo managed it and they have giant legs for kicking and puny arms.
i am not sure where you are getting this idea a choke is inherently low percentage. Especially the idea you cant do it under stress.
ballen0351
Sr. Grandmaster
No all I need to do is drop my chin and crawl to the gun. If there was no weapon in play it wouldnt matter you have time to work it out.
It takes a second to rechamber and kick again and keep kicking and kicking. Its not hard to knock someone out by kicking them
No he just needs to defend long enough to get to the gun
its hard to do most things under stress. I dont know if I can or cant apply a choke in a life or death fight Ive never tried. I have punch, struck, and shot someone however in a life or death fight so I know I can do that. I know when the Adrenalinis pumping simple tasks like putting on handcuffs is alot harder then normal.
what ferguson guy? Mike Brown was shot
seriously? thats relevant how?
Ummm because Ive had people try it on me in real life and its pretty darn easy to defend it. Ummm because under stress (real stress) everything is hard to do. I also never said you cant to it I said its harder. Repeated kicking is much easier and more effective then getting on the ground with a guy scrambling for a gun.
Not to mention the plus 1 rule. If you find 1 weapon there is 2. If you find 2 there is 3 if you find 3 there is 4 etc etc etc. The best plan to to quickly and effectively incapacitate the suspect. Even a choke takes 10+ seconds. I exploded a mans heart no blood flow to the brain he still was able to walk away and move for several seconds before he fell. Do you know how many shots you can fire in 5 seconds? ALOT
In reality you will never find yourself in the situation in the OP video so it really doesnt matter. Do a kangaroo choke I dont care
ballen0351
Sr. Grandmaster
Your an idiot and will be going on ignore so the rest of us can talk about humans
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
lol. With the kick i just drop my chin and crawl towards the gun.
it is not hard to knock someone out with a choke.
the choke works in real life under stress. Not once or twice. A lot of times.
so you say it is easier and it seem now you have.
Doesn't work under stress. Disproved.
Doesn't work on you. Too small a sample. You may be magically unchokable. That is not the norm.
i have seen a guy who was kicked in the head who was able to walk around fine after.
the chokes i mentions put you in between the guy and the gun. A rear naked give you the chance to drag the person backwards.
all high percentage.
i have done that kangaroo choke a lot.
drop bear
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