Xue Sheng, thank you for your input. Unfortunately, I am not as learned of the Chinese martial arts history as you are and could not tell you what impact Chinese Duan had on the CMA house nor am naïve to believe that all the Wing Chun families, styles and systems will jump onboard to this idea. What I am saying is, if utilized properly, this can provide clear consistent progression of learning levels and can benefit the growth of the art. It can show affiliation and provide quality control/ oversight (QC). I recently retired after serving 30 years in the US Army, planned missions, had numerous deployments and unfortunately attended many memorial services but as a leader we always trained or soldiers to don't settle for status quo or "this is how it's always been done". Always look for ways to make it better and to give more than you take. That's all I'm trying to do and I welcome constructive criticism. When I started TKD in the mid 70's there were only 6 belts. Now there are 12-13 depending on the school you go to. A close friend of mine has a very successful martial arts school with a consistent 250+ students for the last 19 years and that's all he does. We both came from the same Moo Duk Kwon TKD background but both have expanded our knowledge into other arts. I questioned him on how they've changed from the old ways and how there are double the amount of belts now. I also expressed my concern about the quality of TKD each student reflected. He explained a hard reality that I know is true because I experienced it in the military. Society has become "less hungry" for martial arts and for most things that have a cost whether it be time, money or sweat. Many people are more "what's in it for me?" focused but still want to try. He said that he's adjusted teaching styles only giving the "old school" ways to those who show that they're hungry and show the potential and aptitude to learn. The others he teaches to their level pushing them to their abilities and provides confidence, physical exercise and classes to fit their 45-60min time block. The ones that stay for additional classes and are always seeking more, reap the benefits of the "old school student" (or old ways we're accustomed to) the others get what they put in but still benefit and are healtier and more productive citizens. As a leader my goal has always been to, by my example, inspire soldiers to set realistic goals, accomplish the mission (to include their mission in life), take personal responsibility for their actions, and always look for ways to improve yourself and your surroundings in spite of what others may say. I am merely trying my best to do that for my new found passion Applied Wing Chun Kung-Fu. Thank you again for your comments.~
I agree. It will be a challenge. I don't know if the WC world is willing to "share their knowledge" but someone has to start the dialogue. Why not me? I'm used to dealing with people with a "CAN'T DO" , "SHOUDN'T DO" or "WHY DO?" attitude. I will do the best that I can do and hopefully inspire someone else to do more than I. Thank you again for the dialogue and constructive input. I look forward to more input from you.
You are not the first and you will not be the last, there is a 1st generation Ip Man student in Hong Kong who believes there needs to be a standardization of all Wing Chun styles and curriculums. There are also those of that generation who do not... I do not think Ip Chun does or Ip Ching but I am not sure there... but with that said, they do not teach the same way either
I agree. The attention span of this generation is technology driven. "microwave mentality", and wanting it all RIGHT NOW is beat of the drum that many of today's society march to. Thanks for the input.I was inspired by Wing Chun's approach to belts that I run my local Hapkido program in that fashion. We issue certificates to measure progress but rarely ever wear belts in practice. On the occasions when a certain technique requires me to wear my dobak top I might tie mine on to keep the top closed that's about it. i personally think ranking systems exist to motivate a generation with no attention span.
Okay, now I'm curious. How did you spend over $1000 dollars coming up with the idea of using colored t-shirts to indicate rank?
While your intentions seem noble, I think you should rather appreciate the disunified and uncodified system that exists in traditional martial arts.
Do you really want to see Wing Chun become like modern Japanese sportive arts, such as Karate?
Do you think that we need to have ranks and gradings to motivate people?
Do you think that Wing Chun needs to become a regulated, controlled system with grading, curricula, rank, and a governing body?
I have to disagree on all levels. The beauty is that we don't have any of that. We learn the art for the sake of the art itself; not for sport or competition, and not to get grades or ranks. The art is rich, diverse, and earnest by virtue that it is not a governed and codified system. Of course you will have varying degrees of quality with this approach, and lineages will differ in what they perceive to be the right way of doing things, but this is the reality of any living, breathing martial art.
I fear the day when such an approach to martial arts no longer exists. I don't want grades and ranks. I don't want to learn to perform forms for an audience, or learn to fight in a competitive sparring or chisau context. And I don't want to see a governing body become mandatory to "authenticate" a system. And once these things become wide spread, they're almost impossible to escape.
Sending off and paying templates for embroidery, silk screening, patch prototypes, shirt purchases shipping etc. but that's not my point. My point was that I'm not in this for the money. "Leave more than you take." was the philosophy I was referring to. Thanks~Okay, now I'm curious. How did you spend over $1000 dollars coming up with the idea of using colored t-shirts to indicate rank?
I agree. The attention span of this generation is technology driven. "microwave mentality", and wanting it all RIGHT NOW is beat of the drum that many of today's society march to. Thanks for the input.