street fighter is an attitude not a synonym for no training.

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How many 'tournament' fighters got knocked out, embarrassed, or beat up thinking otherwise. Remember new people if u get into a fight in the street and must fight, do not think a referee will save u. U are in the street. Trust what ur art says or begs u to do even if its talk, yell and strike, or escape in order to survive. That feeling that comes to ur chest is not fear. Not defending yourself is! Size does not matter, trust me.
 

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Attitude is important it is true. The attitude that leads to your not having to fight in the first place is one to cultivate.

As a total aside, one thing to bear in mind, that has nothing to do with the subject matter you are posting about, is that this forum, in common with many others around the web, has a policy of trying to encourage the best use of English that a poster is capable of. Whilst recognising that English is sometimes not a posters first language and so making allowances for poor spelling or grammar, avoiding text or 133t sp33k is very much appreciated as it assists those readers for whom English is a secondary or even tertiary tongue to understand better what is being written.
 
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You know what.... I would edit that post and change all of the 'u' 's to 'you' just for you and all the people you mentioned but I can't, sorry; really. I have an aside for your post. Have you ever used Iaido in the street? Do you find it practical? Do you have any hand or foot techniques?
 

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Not to worry on the inability to edit front - all non-Moderators are slaves to the time limit on such matters :D. It's just something to bear in mind for the future.

As to using Iaido in the 'Street'; not wanting to be arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and not being in the habit of carrying a katana stuffed down the back of my coat ... I think you can guess that the answer to your question is a resounding "No" :). However, the principles of zanshin do apply wherever you are and the greatest martial technique of all is not to be there when trouble starts. Being able to 'read a room' and leave when your sense of developing events prompts you to is an essential skill.

There are some techniques within Iai that entail you laying hands on an opponent, primarily with a view to controlling what he can do with his blade but there are very few. It has to be borne in mind that Iaido is a subset of the martial skills of the Samurai class and, as such, has highly limited applicability to the modern world. Iai, oddly enough, is an art devoted to the use of the sword in a 'civilian' or 'street fighting' environment but, as we are not permitted to carry swords at our sides anymore, it is now at a point where it is difficult to envisage it being put to practical use in this day and age.
 

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Im preeety sure that feeling in your chest you mentioned is your heart rate multiplying in a fraction of a second.
Just saying.
 
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okay......? don't you know kung fu as well? Anyway, that's not what I'm getting at. Iaido is half of the battle, Sir. I think you should learn unarmed combat techniques just in case you get into a fight. Unless of course you just always turn your cheek. Then it wouldn't matter I guess.



Not to worry on the inability to edit front - all non-Moderators are slaves to the time limit on such matters :D. It's just something to bear in mind for the future.

As to using Iaido in the 'Street'; not wanting to be arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and not being in the habit of carrying a katana stuffed down the back of my coat ... I think you can guess that the answer to your question is a resounding "No" :). However, the principles of zanshin do apply wherever you are and the greatest martial technique of all is not to be there when trouble starts. Being able to 'read a room' and leave when your sense of developing events prompts you to is an essential skill.

There are some techniques within Iai that entail you laying hands on an opponent, primarily with a view to controlling what he can do with his blade but there are very few. It has to be borne in mind that Iaido is a subset of the martial skills of the Samurai class and, as such, has highly limited applicability to the modern world. Iai, oddly enough, is an art devoted to the use of the sword in a 'civilian' or 'street fighting' environment but, as we are not permitted to carry swords at our sides anymore, it is now at a point where it is difficult to envisage it being put to practical use in this day and age.
 

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For me, I am afraid, getting into a fight, a fair one at any rate, is not an option.

Not only for the philosophical reason that I would consider it a failure if violence was the only option left to me in a given circumstance but also for the very practical reason that the damage I sustained from a long ago motorcycle accident is why I now do Iai rather than Lau Gar.

One thing to give weight to in this conversation is that I get the feeling we 'live' in very different worlds. For a start, you are in Washington, a city renowned for it's violent crime problem and I live in a small country town in England renowned for it's quietness :). In other words, the rather safe and pedestrian life I live means that I do not have the need to be constantly ready to unleash a Hurticane on those seeking to do me harm.

[video=youtube_share;jW4POr1ZNLc]http://youtu.be/jW4POr1ZNLc[/video]
 
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I lived in a quiet town in Italy (gricingano di aversa) for a good number of years. I just came back to the states to be honest. I think you and I should have a beer-- I would buy. And I would probably flood you with questions about Iaido. I respect your art very much. You know Aikido can be practiced with a long sword. I would like to see your stuff. I bet it would fill in the gaps for me. I'm sorry to hear that you were in an accident. You do yourself good by continuing with the sword. I see Iaido as pure artwork. I bet if you had a bokken and we did some no pad sparring my wife would be cashing gratuity :)

I love english music btw. I am hooked on drum n bass :) I suck I know.


For me, I am afraid, getting into a fight, a fair one at any rate, is not an option.

Not only for the philosophical reason that I would consider it a failure if violence was the only option left to me in a given circumstance but also for the very practical reason that the damage I sustained from a long ago motorcycle accident is why I now do Iai rather than Lau Gar.

One thing to give weight to in this conversation is that I get the feeling we 'live' in very different worlds. For a start, you are in Washington, a city renowned for it's violent crime problem and I live in a small country town in England renowned for it's quietness :). In other words, the rather safe and pedestrian life I live means that I do not have the need to be constantly ready to unleash a Hurticane on those seeking to do me harm.

[video=youtube_share;jW4POr1ZNLc]http://youtu.be/jW4POr1ZNLc[/video]
 
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Not to rave (lol) but I could only imagine the philosophy in Iaido. Aikido opened up the universe for me. I started to understand things from a universal perspective. How many years did you study? I'm looking to take kung fu or judo next myself.
 

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I will never understand how so many of you guys manage to street fight all the time...I mean it must be like living in a Chuck Norris movie.:wink1:
 

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I will never understand how so many of you guys manage to street fight all the time...I mean it must be like living in a Chuck Norris movie.:wink1:

Optionally, *insert name here* *insert location here* Ranger.

Like...
Superkizuna Washington Ranger. Season One Episode Two.
ETinCYQX Gander Ranger. Season Five Episode Fourteen.
Sukerin Staffordshire Ranger. Season Three, Episode Eight.

Its pretty great.
 

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For me, I am afraid, getting into a fight, a fair one at any rate, is not an option.

Not only for the philosophical reason that I would consider it a failure if violence was the only option left to me in a given circumstance but also for the very practical reason that the damage I sustained from a long ago motorcycle accident is why I now do Iai rather than Lau Gar.

One thing to give weight to in this conversation is that I get the feeling we 'live' in very different worlds. For a start, you are in Washington, a city renowned for it's violent crime problem and I live in a small country town in England renowned for it's quietness :). In other words, the rather safe and pedestrian life I live means that I do not have the need to be constantly ready to unleash a Hurticane on those seeking to do me harm.

[video=youtube_share;jW4POr1ZNLc]http://youtu.be/jW4POr1ZNLc[/video]
Thanks, if nothing else, I now understand what all these references to Ameri Do Te are about, I had missed this in my sheltered world.
 

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How many 'tournament' fighters got knocked out, embarrassed, or beat up thinking otherwise. Remember new people if u get into a fight in the street and must fight, do not think a referee will save u. U are in the street. Trust what ur art says or begs u to do even if its talk, yell and strike, or escape in order to survive. That feeling that comes to ur chest is not fear. Not defending yourself is! Size does not matter, trust me.

Thanks for your wisdom. How did you become an "experienced street fightrer" anyway? Just curious.
 

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How many 'tournament' fighters got knocked out, embarrassed, or beat up thinking otherwise. Remember new people if u get into a fight in the street and must fight, do not think a referee will save u. U are in the street. Trust what ur art says or begs u to do even if its talk, yell and strike, or escape in order to survive. That feeling that comes to ur chest is not fear. Not defending yourself is! Size does not matter, trust me.

Based on my experiences, actually sometimes there are do-gooders and wannabe referees who comes and stops the fight. These can be passers by, friends, police... Sometimes even grannies joins the fun (seen grannies go in the center of two rioting gangs to stop the fight where small slingshot arrows were flying... totally crazy!). By the way, small arrows can be stopped by using an umbrella with a mesh type rice sack or some clothing on top as a shield :)

Often times these wannabe referees do good by stopping the fight. Sometimes these wannabe referees can add more damage than help by joining in the fight especially when some accidental blows hits them, then the fight becomes a brawl. Sometimes the opponents friends will pretend like they are helping to stop the fight but with the intention of discretely holding their friend's enemy so that their friend can land some easy sucker blows. The worst case is punks posing as wannabe referees but their intensions are to fuel-up the fighters more. We have lots of these clowns in the Philippines. They have many ways on fueling up the fight by teasing the fighters. I wont deny that I was one of these clowns when I was younger :)

Last January I attended our school alumni in the Philippines. A classmate got really drunk and started tossing food and beer all over while we were watching the dancers which led to a fight. I was dumb to be the stupid referee and tried to stop the fight. Punches and kicks were flying all over and led to a ground fight. My classmates are taller and larger than me and I was sandwiched in the middle. I got lucky not to receive any blows maybe because I don't drink alcohol but got my left knee twisted a bit since they are so heavy (like pigs). My knee was just about cured from the last practice with my son and it got damaged again because of my stupid act. Anyway, after separating them, my classmates were teasing the guys and fueling up the fight. One group said how he looked like a dork for being punched in the face. The other group said to the other that he punched like a girl. Stupid stuffs like, "he said you are fat", "you look like an ugly porno star", "you have bad breath", etc. I had to stop them several times but it was quite fun. Remember that we are all in our 40s and we (they) are acting like kids. Anyway the fight stopped but I was really worried because someone may get too exited and may lead to a gun fight because even when the guys separated their ways, my classmates were still teasing them both... I went back home to Japan with a limp but it was fun though and if I go to our alumni again, next time I will be wearing body armor, HAHAHA!
 

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