Sparring

[ShortBridge]

...If you are going to train for a fight (boxing, mama, may thai, etc) ...

...and let's leave my mama outta this.

 

[Hanzou]

Can one only become a good fighter and be prepared for a fight if they spar? Or is simply learning the form and ingraining those movements into one's reflexes just as efficient?

I have yet to see a fighter that doesn't spar. Let me know when you find one.

 

[Flying Crane]

Kind of hard to be on a discussion forum if you dont care about what other people do.

I mean why do you bother?

That is a question I ask myself every time I engage in "discussion" with you and a couple others. Why bother?

However, there are some others here who are able to have meaningful discussions, and I value their opinions and knowledge.

 

[Ironbear24]

OMG, you never fought before have you? Here's a clue, the other guy ain't gonna stand still for you to hit him at full Fist of Fury like the way you do it vs. a bag or some other old guy holding a pad and thinking it'll kill someone for sure.



After 20+ years of UFC's, the ghost of Fred Ettish still lives on.

Where did I ever say people stand still and let me hit them or even people stand still and let people hit eachother? You are just being obtuse yet again.

 

[JowGaWolf]

So OK. If you sparred with gloves on and had rules it would reduce the danger of hurting people in training.

Which is of course why they are there in the first place.

definitely

 

[JowGaWolf]

Like I said, it depends on who you spar against. Maybe if you spar Tex. But say a UFC fighter, ain't going to stand still because arthritis has set in, to let you Super Dragon punch him in the face and absorb the full force. Even the bottom of the barrel UFC fighter, who never even get to fight on Free TV at the bottom of the fight card....for like $3,000-5,000.....will jack you up.....and the UFC signs up like 500+ fighters. Heck, even the average, local Pro Fighter who can't even make it to this #500 spot and be the lowest guy on the UFC roster..... you wouldn't even touch his face before he KO's you.

I wouldn't be able to touch his face before he knocks me out? Only arrogant fighters think that. And I'm sure none of them would share your assumption about my fighting skill. I actually like people who are arrogant like that not taking me serious or feel that I'm a threat. That gives me an advantage.

 

[Flying Crane]

I keep seeing reference to large sums of money. I can't quite wrap my head around how that is relevant to this discussion so I'm gonna write that off as someone's personal obsession.

Either that or it's a sign I need to play the lottery again...

 

[drop bear]

That is a question I ask myself every time I engage in "discussion" with you and a couple others. Why bother?

Because i force people to have original thoughts or to really understand why they think what they do.

Rather than just accepting what they have been told.

It is the same reason you should spar. And spar hard and as many different people as you can.

Because learning is not meant to be comfortable.

 

[drop bear]

I keep seeing reference to large sums of money. I can't quite wrap my head around how that is relevant to this discussion so I'm gonna write that off as someone's personal obsession.

Either that or it's a sign I need to play the lottery again...

If there is big money you are more likley to attract quality people. Rule of thumb.

 

[Ironbear24]

If there is big money you are more likley to attract quality people. Rule of thumb.

Quantity of people maybe. Idk about quality.

 

[drop bear]

I wouldn't be able to touch his face before he knocks me out? Only arrogant fighters think that. And I'm sure none of them would share your assumption about my fighting skill. I actually like people who are arrogant like that not taking me serious or feel that I'm a threat. That gives me an advantage.

These conversations always confuse me. Instead of having a logic gymnastics session. You could just go do it.

 

[drop bear]

Quantity of people maybe. Idk about quality.

If we are talking about competition the more people who participate the better the top two guys are going to be.

 

[JowGaWolf]

If there is big money you are more likley to attract quality people. Rule of thumb.

more like attract fighters who want to make by fighting

 

[Touch Of Death]

Quantity of people maybe. Idk about quality.

A quality student, is a rich student.

 

[JowGaWolf]

These conversations always confuse me. Instead of having a logic gymnastics session. You could just go do it.

just go do it? For the purpose of?
With things like this it is better to take comfort in one's ability and let people think what they want. It doesn't bother me or get under my skin. Say I fight against a UFC fighter and I land a good punch, then what? Say I don't land a punch but I land a kick. Say I don't land anything then what? No big gain either way.

 

[Flying Crane]

If there is big money you are more likley to attract quality people. Rule of thumb.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That is some funny stuff. I guess that's why I bother.

 

[Flying Crane]

Because i force people to have original thoughts or to really understand why they think what they do.

Rather than just accepting what they have been told.

It is the same reason you should spar. And spar hard and as many different people as you can.

Because learning is not meant to be comfortable.

You overestimate yourself.

 

[Hanzou]

just go do it? For the purpose of?
With things like this it is better to take comfort in one's ability and let people think what they want. It doesn't bother me or get under my skin. Say I fight against a UFC fighter and I land a good punch, then what? Say I don't land a punch but I land a kick. Say I don't land anything then what? No big gain either way.

You would become a multi-millionaire and become one of the most sought after martial arts instructor/coaches on the planet. Additionally you'd change the face of martial arts forever, and put Jow Ga on the map.

Yeah, no biggie right?

 

[JowGaWolf]

You would become a multi-millionaire and become one of the most sought after martial arts instructor/coaches on the planet. Additionally you'd change the face of martial arts forever, and put Jow Ga on the map.

Yeah, no biggie right?

I do martial arts for myself and not for money or fame. There are better ways to make money and fame than fighting.

 

[drop bear]

just go do it? For the purpose of?
With things like this it is better to take comfort in one's ability and let people think what they want. It doesn't bother me or get under my skin. Say I fight against a UFC fighter and I land a good punch, then what? Say I don't land a punch but I land a kick. Say I don't land anything then what? No big gain either way.

Doesnt work after you have allready backed yourself on the topic to then claim you have no intrest.