And that has to do with what? I'm passing on scientifically valid information about what happens when your head gets hit, I've said that it is each individual's decision to make whether they participate in martial arts/sports that inflict head shots. If you know the facts then you can make an informed decision, I've not said whether I believe one should spar/fight with headshots or not so really your post is just another cheap shot at me.
Sparring
- Thread starter abe_tz
- Start date
And that has to do with what? I'm passing on scientifically valid information about what happens when your head gets hit, I've said that it is each individual's decision to make whether they participate in martial arts/sports that inflict head shots. If you know the facts then you can make an informed decision, I've not said whether I believe one should spar/fight with headshots or not so really your post is just another cheap shot at me.
I know I don't hit harder than anybody else who does it for a living. By default many of the techniques in martial arts are more concerned about landing punches and strikes in specific areas more than they are about just hitting hard. Strikes to the joints, certain places on the head that would 1. be against the rules in a sporting event and 2. wouldn't be possible to actually hit with big boxing gloves on.
Maybe it's your personality?
if your self defense starts to look like fighting then you need to fix your self defense.
Usually it was the fall that killed them.
Nearly always. We had a case just before Christmas here in the local town, the boyfriend and husband of a woman were fighting, bf punches husband, one punch,who went down and hit his head on the pavement, died. Another, a couple of years ago, a civilian chef at one of the barracks was out drinking got in a fight, one punch he went down and again hit his head and died. It's quite distressingly common.
I am sure that I know plenty of women, children and old men that could spar the crap out of you.
How often do you spar with children?
FriedRice
Master Black Belt
First off, I really do like some of the very, technical stuff that you post up, but here, you are way, way, way out of line in trying to imply that you know how to punch better than Boxers. This is absolutely ridiculous. There's like a million videos on YouTube showing proper punching techniques just as good and better than yours.
You think that Mayweather's ONE fight purse of $180,000,000 can't buy him 10,000 Kung-Fu guys like you to come train him on how to super-punch like you, if it was worthwhile for him? Boxing is a multi-billion dollar industry. When was the last time that a Kung-Fu tournament sold out a stadium rather than the usual, hotel ballroom venue + $5/entrance?
FriedRice
Master Black Belt
OMG, you never fought before have you? Here's a clue, the other guy ain't gonna stand still for you to hit him at full Fist of Fury like the way you do it vs. a bag or some other old guy holding a pad and thinking it'll kill someone for sure.
After 20+ years of UFC's, the ghost of Fred Ettish still lives on.
FriedRice
Master Black Belt
Like I said, it depends on who you spar against. Maybe if you spar Tex. But say a UFC fighter, ain't going to stand still because arthritis has set in, to let you Super Dragon punch him in the face and absorb the full force. Even the bottom of the barrel UFC fighter, who never even get to fight on Free TV at the bottom of the fight card....for like $3,000-5,000.....will jack you up.....and the UFC signs up like 500+ fighters. Heck, even the average, local Pro Fighter who can't even make it to this #500 spot and be the lowest guy on the UFC roster..... you wouldn't even touch his face before he KO's you.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
You have posted constantly the risks of head trauma without saying whether or not you should Spar makes you position clear.
That you post this information without disclosing that you are involved in exactly this activity is dishonest.
You have not given all the information so someone can make a decision. Because you did not explain your personal involvement.
I have given the information that you are involved in this activity. So that people can make an informed decision.
If this was a discussion on riding bikes and all you posted was information on bike crashes.then you would not be giving accurate information even though technically you are giving facts.
FriedRice
Master Black Belt
I really thought I've heard some really wild stuff on TMA forums, but what he said about how Pro fighters who fights for tens of millions up to $180,000,000 like Mayweather.....and how he thinks that they never throw full power because it's a sport.....when all that money, fame and glory is on the line.....I think this is the most delusional thing I've heard, ever. Hell, some guy fighting his first fight for free, will always throw everything he has and the kitchen sink, in trying to really kill the other guy.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Not if it looks like you are winning.
FriedRice
Master Black Belt
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
So OK. If you sparred with gloves on and had rules it would reduce the danger of hurting people in training.
Which is of course why they are there in the first place.
Bollocks, this is yet another attempt to start an argument and to troll, you don't actually want to know anything about whether I spar full contact or not because you already know that we do at my club, I've said so numerous times, I even got censured by a poster, Steve, here because he thought my breaking a student's nose was disgusting etc etc. Ask him. I've also said I've been KO'd twice, but you don't actually want to know, you prefer call me a liar and start one of your online arguments merely because it amuses you. Well son, I think you should concentrate on your own training and grow up.
I don't know why you think that my training style has anything to do with others training and why they would check what I do before deciding what they do, they aren't that kind of stupid. The information on what happens to the brain when hit has been available for a long time, you can choose to ignore it but it has nothing to do with what I do, I recommend people look at facts and make their own minds up, surely you can do that without wondering what others do?
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
You really have to stop crying troll every time you struggle to make a point. Just make the point or don't. But constantly playing the victim gets a bit tired.
I explained my position. You can agree with it or not. I don't really care.
But my dear boy, I'm not the victim here, you are because you constantly cry for attention, and really you know I'm not the only one who calls you troll...remember your lessons from Chris Parker who totally owned you?
I do wonder how long the Mods are going to allow this thread to stay open because of the posts of a couple who choose to be uncivil and call respected posters liars, afraid and 'know nothings'. I think this thread has run it's course and has disintegrated into the usual nastiness.
ShortBridge
3rd Black Belt
As others have pointed out, it's a nuanced question that will always set up a variety of passionate responses.
Fair to say though that forms and reflexes are not sufficient, on their own, to make someone into a fighter if they weren't one to begin with.
Similar threads
- Ty K. Doe
- General Martial Arts Talk
