- Feb 23, 2014
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I never said the skill sets were entirely different. Of course the methods for avoiding punches are similar (not exactly the same only because of a few strikes that shouldn't occur in competition, but that's a very minor difference IMO). But there are differences. They are not identical. What's the % overlap? Well, if we're talking Judo competition, it's probably 50%-ish. If we're talking MMA, it's probably a lot higher than that - I'd guess upwards of 80-90%, so long as we're only talking about the physical skills.
Mind you, there's one component we haven't talked about, and I'm not sure how different that is. That's pattern recognition. This is actually what makes us faster at responding to attacks as we get better, even though we're aging (so our response times and muscle speed are actually getting worse). We learn to recognize movement patterns and see what's coming very early. This is one of the hazards of the untrained attacker: they don't have consistent patterns like when we're looking at trained opponents. I haven't figured a way to test pattern recognition from excellent competitors, but we have some reasonable evidence of the issue in early mixed-art competitions. Folks who had trained solely in their own style often weren't beaten because they didn't know a counter to an attack, but more so because they didn't recognize the attack in time to use that counter. This has been the real value of MMA-style training, IMO.
Pattern recognition. I allways try to spar the new guy. It is a different game to sparring the experienced guy.
And sort of. Ok a boxer may never learn to eye poke or defend one. But because he knows the mechanics of throwing and avoiding punches he is going to perform better than a person who has specifically trained eye pokes. But has not spent the time learning to give or receive strikes.
I sparred kickboxing with a boxer. And it showed his knowledge of distance and timing and how to make entries and exits work. Went a long way to being successful in an environment where he had only trained half the tools.
Actually there are examples of pattern recognition. You see the videos of ninja vs mma an the like. Untrained street fighters do fight trained guys in environments we can see.