I was going to check Roberts website, but I noticed its not where I looked. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/2264/
Robert where'd ya go?
Robert where'd ya go?
RSK,
I'm pretty sure if you met someone in Japan he was most likely from the Geronimo Family of sikaran . That is a different system than I am in with different cultural back ground and martial arts training (he was Issinryu I belive and TKD befor sikaran) where involved in his style. . To the best of my knowledge we have not had an instructor from our system in Japan until very recently and he is back in the states already haveing comleted his assignment for the comany he works for.
I simply told him to attack in a stance he choose the one he did. It was a photo shoot
yes people do attack like that in tournaments sometimes
perhaps I was jokeing when I made the gay bar reffrence because you said you had seen the technique ( a hammer fist to the groin) in a bar. Most admit it slows a person down alot. they usualy dont get up if hit with it
and yes he may have some JAK background I am not his first instructor Hell I may have had some mixed in by some instructor somewhere along the line.
would you have rather seen him in street clothing standing upright like a street thug attacking like he had no idea what he was doing? The photos worked for the what I needed them to the time.
I'm pretty sure if you met someone in Japan he was most likely from the Geronimo Family of sikaran . That is a different system than I am in with different cultural back ground and martial arts training (he was Issinryu I belive and TKD befor sikaran) where involved in his style. . To the best of my knowledge we have not had an instructor from our system in Japan until very recently and he is back in the states already haveing comleted his assignment for the comany he works for.
I simply told him to attack in a stance he choose the one he did. It was a photo shoot
yes people do attack like that in tournaments sometimes
perhaps I was jokeing when I made the gay bar reffrence because you said you had seen the technique ( a hammer fist to the groin) in a bar. Most admit it slows a person down alot. they usualy dont get up if hit with it
and yes he may have some JAK background I am not his first instructor Hell I may have had some mixed in by some instructor somewhere along the line.
would you have rather seen him in street clothing standing upright like a street thug attacking like he had no idea what he was doing? The photos worked for the what I needed them to the time.
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RyuShiKan
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Now to answer Rich Parsons questions.
I joined MT when real names werent required ..in fact I was probably one of the first to suggest real names be used in the profile .ask Bob Hubbard, he might recall.
How long have I trained?
For almost 30 years.
Which arts have I trained in?
Judo
Karate
Sumo
Naginata
Kendo/kenjutsu
Who have I trained with?
Judo:
Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki
1981 World Judo Champion
5 time winner of All-Japan Champion (Weight Division)
Tadanori Koshino
1989 2nd place World Championships
1991 1st place World Championships
1992 Barcelona Olympics 3rd place
Karate
Oyata Seiyu-student of Nakamura Shigeru of Okinawa Kenpo-who was a student of Itosu Anko etc, etc,
1968 Bogu (full contact fighting) Champion
1968 Kobudo Fightintg Champion
Katori Shinto Ryu (briefly)
Sugino Sensei
Mr. Sugino was a direct student and I believe 8th dan of Ueshibas as well.
I have not listed several people for various reasons.
I was a Golden Member (no joke thats what they called it) of the JKF- Japan Karate Do Federation for more than 10 years.
I know its not that impressive compared to some of the Grand Master Blaster Sokes that are on this board.......
I joined MT when real names werent required ..in fact I was probably one of the first to suggest real names be used in the profile .ask Bob Hubbard, he might recall.
How long have I trained?
For almost 30 years.
Which arts have I trained in?
Judo
Karate
Sumo
Naginata
Kendo/kenjutsu
Who have I trained with?
Judo:
Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki
1981 World Judo Champion
5 time winner of All-Japan Champion (Weight Division)
Tadanori Koshino
1989 2nd place World Championships
1991 1st place World Championships
1992 Barcelona Olympics 3rd place
Karate
Oyata Seiyu-student of Nakamura Shigeru of Okinawa Kenpo-who was a student of Itosu Anko etc, etc,
1968 Bogu (full contact fighting) Champion
1968 Kobudo Fightintg Champion
Katori Shinto Ryu (briefly)
Sugino Sensei
Mr. Sugino was a direct student and I believe 8th dan of Ueshibas as well.
I have not listed several people for various reasons.
I was a Golden Member (no joke thats what they called it) of the JKF- Japan Karate Do Federation for more than 10 years.
I know its not that impressive compared to some of the Grand Master Blaster Sokes that are on this board.......
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paihequan
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RyuShiKan,
I also agree, Iwould personally teach that the person hold is Hiki-Te in a more forward position then that shown in the original photo sequence and I would not advocate the use of the Zenkutsu -Dachi in such a long, drawn-out fashion as shown as this would be asking for trouble.
Most Chinese arts would hold the rear hand in a Wu-Sao or guard position protecting the centreline.
I also agree, Iwould personally teach that the person hold is Hiki-Te in a more forward position then that shown in the original photo sequence and I would not advocate the use of the Zenkutsu -Dachi in such a long, drawn-out fashion as shown as this would be asking for trouble.
Most Chinese arts would hold the rear hand in a Wu-Sao or guard position protecting the centreline.
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RyuShiKan
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After all the lies I see on other people's websites I decided to pull mine down.
http://community.webshots.com/sym/image3/9/41/25/16894125NKVBCmgnHz_ph.jpg
care to critique this one?
care to critique this one?
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MartialArtist
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Why would RSK attack Japanese training tools? Take a look at his location.
I think he's trying to differentiate the difference between TRAINING TOOLS versus combat. The fact that the guy is trying to do some of the training tools in a self-defense situation is absurd. It would be like a sprinter doing depth jumps during a race.
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RyuShiKan
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All I got was this message:
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You don't have permission to access /sym/image3/9/41/25/16894125NKVBCmgnHz_ph.jpg on this server.
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Apache/1.3.22 Server at community.webshots.com Port 80
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MartialArtist
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Maybe I'm missing something
It doesn't look like some of the pictures were taken live. In the first picture RSK attached, the guy blocking it is looking elsewhere (probably a second camera or something) for demonstration purposes.
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RyuShiKan
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Cute dew rag
I cant really make out what they are trying to do ..looks like mid technique.
I would say that the distance between them is somewhat more realistic and both people are standing up right rather than one posing in a JKA kamae.
I cant really make out what they are trying to do ..looks like mid technique.
I would say that the distance between them is somewhat more realistic and both people are standing up right rather than one posing in a JKA kamae.
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RyuShiKan
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Geez Ron is it possible for you to post a BIGGER photo
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MartialArtist
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I think anyone with a brain would find the picture funny
:asian:
Just look at everyone's facial expressions
If anyone thinks I teach my students to go into a low stance as shownor a deep horse stance when in a street fight . Well.
:rofl:
I'm not even saying there might not be a time and place for in the street Im just saying classic stances have there part in trianing and practice, as do the unorthdox.
I think that if you look at most Martial arts sites the students and or instructor are in stances of one tye or another.
Most static stances have gone out of many systems but some still teach them for a varrity of reasons. I don't question them they have there ways I have mine you have yours.
As for a training tool vs a photo shoot which looks better
:rofl:
I'm not even saying there might not be a time and place for in the street Im just saying classic stances have there part in trianing and practice, as do the unorthdox.
I think that if you look at most Martial arts sites the students and or instructor are in stances of one tye or another.
Most static stances have gone out of many systems but some still teach them for a varrity of reasons. I don't question them they have there ways I have mine you have yours.
As for a training tool vs a photo shoot which looks better
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RyuShiKan
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Hang on a second
..first you said: Plus I told him to do the tech. that way. then you said: I simply told him to attack in a stance he choose the one he did.
Then you said: If anyone thinks I teach my stdents to go into a low stance as shownor a deep horse stance when in a street fight . Well.
So my question is still why have your student pose like that for a demo photo?
You claim you dont teach them to do that ..then why do it?
Sorry I just dont understand the point those photos were trying to make ..
Then you said: If anyone thinks I teach my stdents to go into a low stance as shownor a deep horse stance when in a street fight . Well.
So my question is still why have your student pose like that for a demo photo?
You claim you dont teach them to do that ..then why do it?
Sorry I just dont understand the point those photos were trying to make ..
The picture is of folks doing Ryushinkan Karate-Do.
The point here is that our expert in that art wasn't sure exactly what was going on...so, how certain can he, or any of us be of an art he knows nothing about.
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The point here is that our expert in that art wasn't sure exactly what was going on...so, how certain can he, or any of us be of an art he knows nothing about.
:asian:
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RyuShiKan
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Do you have the URL to RyuShinKan's website?
Just because it is not clear what is happening in one photo doesn't reflect on another photo from a different website.
I fail to see how they are connected.
I think your "point" was to try and come to the aid of one of your mods.
try this " do a right hand pnch to the head or chest in any stance you want"
no I said "If anyone thinks I teach my students to go into a low stance as shown or a deep horse stance when in a street fight . Well. :rofl: "
you know its not worth my time to continue this disscussion If yo dont like the site dont go there.
Until you post an equal number of photos ( as on my site) of you and your students doing anything buss off. Whats the matter afraid someonne will pick apart what you do in the photos.
you dont impress me by makeing fun people who do not do things your way
and I have said befor I do have a more classical background in some styles and Yes for some things and some forms I do teach these stances. But onthe street or teaching street techniques things are different. There is a difference between war and dance and photo shoots
waiting to see your 50 or so photos including sequence techniques.
no I said "If anyone thinks I teach my students to go into a low stance as shown or a deep horse stance when in a street fight . Well. :rofl: "
you know its not worth my time to continue this disscussion If yo dont like the site dont go there.
Until you post an equal number of photos ( as on my site) of you and your students doing anything buss off. Whats the matter afraid someonne will pick apart what you do in the photos.
you dont impress me by makeing fun people who do not do things your way
and I have said befor I do have a more classical background in some styles and Yes for some things and some forms I do teach these stances. But onthe street or teaching street techniques things are different. There is a difference between war and dance and photo shoots
waiting to see your 50 or so photos including sequence techniques.
http://www.ryushinkan.bravepages.com/
The point is simple.
You took something, out of context, and chose to take it to task, while being unfamiliar with the art (or are you familiar with sikaran?) or the individuals in question.
Well, I took something from your own art, which you teach, yet you weren't 100% certain what was going on.
So, what qualifies you to do it to someone else Robert?
You claim -I- know-nothing in the arts, but I have admited it. You on the otherhand, pass yourself off as the judge, and jury of all that is 'right', and I think folks are tired of it. You could have handled this one 10 different ways, yet you chose to attack.
You could have simple posted a picture and asked 'what is this showing, and why is it there?" Instead, you get sarcastic and make 'matrix' jokes. Fine.
If you have something important to add to this website, then contribute, if all youre gonna do is play 'judge dread' then, why dont you go play with those who study your own art, like on E-Budo? I believe they even have a forum dedicated to your art. We're just generic 'karate'.
Then again, perhaps I've learned something in my short years that you in your long years havent.
Humility and respect.
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Robert, either respect our rules and interact with the members here in a polite and respectful way, or leave. You don't have to agree with them or their ideas. You do however have to follow our guidelines.
The other thing is, I've seen a thousand pages with horsestances, yet any intelegent person knows that will result in a shot to the jewels. Do you teach the horsestance Robert?
Any child can take something out of context and make a point. I'd look at your own site, but, its gone. Maybe you're afraid someone else will do to you, what you've done to so many others?
Good evening/morning.
:asian:
The point is simple.
You took something, out of context, and chose to take it to task, while being unfamiliar with the art (or are you familiar with sikaran?) or the individuals in question.
Well, I took something from your own art, which you teach, yet you weren't 100% certain what was going on.
So, what qualifies you to do it to someone else Robert?
You claim -I- know-nothing in the arts, but I have admited it. You on the otherhand, pass yourself off as the judge, and jury of all that is 'right', and I think folks are tired of it. You could have handled this one 10 different ways, yet you chose to attack.
You could have simple posted a picture and asked 'what is this showing, and why is it there?" Instead, you get sarcastic and make 'matrix' jokes. Fine.
If you have something important to add to this website, then contribute, if all youre gonna do is play 'judge dread' then, why dont you go play with those who study your own art, like on E-Budo? I believe they even have a forum dedicated to your art. We're just generic 'karate'.
Then again, perhaps I've learned something in my short years that you in your long years havent.
Humility and respect.
:shrug:
Robert, either respect our rules and interact with the members here in a polite and respectful way, or leave. You don't have to agree with them or their ideas. You do however have to follow our guidelines.
The other thing is, I've seen a thousand pages with horsestances, yet any intelegent person knows that will result in a shot to the jewels. Do you teach the horsestance Robert?
Any child can take something out of context and make a point. I'd look at your own site, but, its gone. Maybe you're afraid someone else will do to you, what you've done to so many others?
Good evening/morning.
:asian:
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RyuShiKan
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Which is precisely why I asked why do you have it in your photo/demo if you dont teach it.
I see.
