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MasterWright
Purple Belt
Sounds like a pinched nerve, If the ligaments around the disc in your back tear it can rupture and put pressure on the nerve. Which in turn will radiate pain down the side affected and loss of feeling in the extremeties.
After physio you could remedy that by standing 6" away from the wall, the wall on the right side, that is. Have my right elbow against my ribs, then push my left hip with my left hand towards the wall. So you are releasing the pressure on the squeezed part of the disc.
Next I would place my hands on my hips and arch out 10 times while keeping my stomach muscles tight. Now in the future, when things get better do some leg raises or crunches religiously.
Hope this helps
After physio you could remedy that by standing 6" away from the wall, the wall on the right side, that is. Have my right elbow against my ribs, then push my left hip with my left hand towards the wall. So you are releasing the pressure on the squeezed part of the disc.
Next I would place my hands on my hips and arch out 10 times while keeping my stomach muscles tight. Now in the future, when things get better do some leg raises or crunches religiously.
Hope this helps
kaizasosei
Master Black Belt
I think that arching back is probably good. I would also stretch the quads by kneeling down as best as possible and then leaning back. Aim to lean back until your back touches the floor. Also, kneeling for longer and longer persiods of time is good in my opinion. stretch everything equaly from your toes to your hips, back and shoulders.
also, you should be careful and not kick with any strength for a while. just kick slowly and carefully. do not hyperextend your right leg and try to stretch out the outside of your left leg but take it easy on the inside of your left leg. watch your feet positions while stetching and practice doing circles with your feet to balance everything out.
most importantly, you need to go back and figure out what you are doing wrong. do not ignore any part of stretching and do not surpass your limits to the point of injury. listen to your body. work on your weaknesses and unflexible areas and forget about tough kicks and looking good for a while. kick low and slow without any stress to your body.
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also, you should be careful and not kick with any strength for a while. just kick slowly and carefully. do not hyperextend your right leg and try to stretch out the outside of your left leg but take it easy on the inside of your left leg. watch your feet positions while stetching and practice doing circles with your feet to balance everything out.
most importantly, you need to go back and figure out what you are doing wrong. do not ignore any part of stretching and do not surpass your limits to the point of injury. listen to your body. work on your weaknesses and unflexible areas and forget about tough kicks and looking good for a while. kick low and slow without any stress to your body.
j
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mcleod13
Orange Belt
Well I just got back from my Dr's appointment. It was a complete waste of 15 minutes.
The Dr. grabs my right knee and pulls and pushes on it and says, Well it isn't a knee problem it is likely your hammy. I ask him why does it hurt when I straighten it out after bending it for a while. He said we should do exercises when it hurts.
He then looks at my left buttock and says "I just want to make sure there isn't an abcess." He basically tells me that it is just sore from doing things it isn't used to, nevermind the fact that I have been doing it for 2 months.
I ask him if I need to take time off, he says: "No, just talk to your instructor and ask him about stretches."
I can't believe this. I know that there is something more than this, but my options are kind of limited.
GRRRR!!!
The Dr. grabs my right knee and pulls and pushes on it and says, Well it isn't a knee problem it is likely your hammy. I ask him why does it hurt when I straighten it out after bending it for a while. He said we should do exercises when it hurts.
He then looks at my left buttock and says "I just want to make sure there isn't an abcess." He basically tells me that it is just sore from doing things it isn't used to, nevermind the fact that I have been doing it for 2 months.
I ask him if I need to take time off, he says: "No, just talk to your instructor and ask him about stretches."
I can't believe this. I know that there is something more than this, but my options are kind of limited.
GRRRR!!!
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mcleod13
Orange Belt
I just scheduled an appointment for tomorrow with one of the sports medicine doctors at my university. I really feel that the doctor I saw today just rushed. I was called back to the office at 2pm, weighed, vitals taken, talked to the nurses, and evaluated by the doctor in about 15 minutes.
Feel that tightness around your neck?.......that's old age, getting a grip on ya! (Beats the alternative, though....)
Make the doctor do his job.
But it is possible that something you've been doing over the last two months has changed. I'm going to use punching as an example. When you first started, you probably threw your punches with much of the same muscle, and a little more technique than when before. But as you learn more and develop more skill, you'll start using different muscles or the same muscles in different ways, and also putting more effort into it. Which can sometimes cause injuries -- both stress and overuse. Another thing that can happen over time is that bad habits can creep in and cause injuries. For example, I took a good principle of rolling my shoulder, and overdid it. I ended up with sore shoulders...
But don't rely on an internet board to diagnose you, and don't settle for a doctor who's blowing your concerns off. He may be right, and it may just be a tight hamstring (not an uncommon cause of knee pain) and lack of stretching. Or it may not. Either way, YOUR concerns aren't eased, and that was his job.
But it is possible that something you've been doing over the last two months has changed. I'm going to use punching as an example. When you first started, you probably threw your punches with much of the same muscle, and a little more technique than when before. But as you learn more and develop more skill, you'll start using different muscles or the same muscles in different ways, and also putting more effort into it. Which can sometimes cause injuries -- both stress and overuse. Another thing that can happen over time is that bad habits can creep in and cause injuries. For example, I took a good principle of rolling my shoulder, and overdid it. I ended up with sore shoulders...
But don't rely on an internet board to diagnose you, and don't settle for a doctor who's blowing your concerns off. He may be right, and it may just be a tight hamstring (not an uncommon cause of knee pain) and lack of stretching. Or it may not. Either way, YOUR concerns aren't eased, and that was his job.
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mcleod13
Orange Belt
I agree. And I hope he is right, but unfortunately he didn't make me believe it.
Nomad
Master Black Belt
Good call, and you might want to get a referral to a good physiotherapist while you're at it. My physiotherapist was able to immediately tell me that I'd pulled and had microtears in my hamstring (which sounds similar to what you're experiencing), and was then able to give me a routine to get it back in shape (exercising it with low weight, high reps, stationary bike, deep tissue massage, ice, etc.)
In contrast, my family doctor basically did the same thing yours did, which amounted to shrugging his shoulders and giving me bogus advice that it would just "get better" on its own (and offering me pain medication). Of course, he also misdiagnosed a torn ACL a year or two later... which would be why I switched GP's shortly afterwards.
Hopefully HE can do a proper diagnosis...
Yeah I hear ya..I was out for 3 months getting my knee back in shape..
You have mu sympathies. Been through prolonged recoveries a few times. Howqever, do not rush back in...you will only cause yourself more problems in the future.
Best thing to do is what oyu're doing. Find out exactly what th eproblem is. Determine a course of treatment. Follow that course before returning to training...however long it takes.
In the meantime, memorize your forms. run through them in your head daily. Research aspects of martial arts that interest you. Work on your conditioning in other ways. There's things you can do to stay "in the game." Some of these things can pay dividends when you return to formal training.
Peace,
Erik
Best thing to do is what oyu're doing. Find out exactly what th eproblem is. Determine a course of treatment. Follow that course before returning to training...however long it takes.
In the meantime, memorize your forms. run through them in your head daily. Research aspects of martial arts that interest you. Work on your conditioning in other ways. There's things you can do to stay "in the game." Some of these things can pay dividends when you return to formal training.
Peace,
Erik
MasterWright
Purple Belt
You heard my story but I left out the part where the doctor first led me to believe it was my hip, this went on for 4 months. He had me on some inflamatories that made me lose weight for one thing and stopped being effective after a while.
I saw this dude 5 times before he sent me to a specialist. Then Bang! results, shots, physio and I was back. You might have a chronic thing that does not go away like the things you had when you were younger. You just have to let it heal, it will get better with the right care.
Keep on this doctor or like iceman says ,get a second opinion.
I saw this dude 5 times before he sent me to a specialist. Then Bang! results, shots, physio and I was back. You might have a chronic thing that does not go away like the things you had when you were younger. You just have to let it heal, it will get better with the right care.
Keep on this doctor or like iceman says ,get a second opinion.
It's hard to be out when you're injured - but the wait time for a good diagnosis is going to be shorter than the healing time if you injure yourself further while you're waiting. Hopefully the university doctor will give you a more thorough exam and a more meaningful diagnosis and treatment regimen. Good luck!
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mcleod13
Orange Belt
I know it sucks... I hope he does. It isn't even that I want something to be wrong but I want to know for sure I sure wasn't comfortable with the exam yesterday. I really want to start training again.
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mcleod13
Orange Belt
Well I just got back from my appointment and that was more like it. He told me that I have two problems.
1. He believes I have some torn cartilage (sp) in my right knee that could be swollen that is catching when I bend my knee.
2. He believes that my muscle that controls the outter movement of my leg is swollen and is putting pressure on my scietic (sp) nerve.
He gave me a prescription of naproxen and referred me to physical therapy. He also told me that i can continue doing what I am doing, just not as hard. I am happy with this evaluation because he actually took the time to move my legs around and reenact the pain.
1. He believes I have some torn cartilage (sp) in my right knee that could be swollen that is catching when I bend my knee.
2. He believes that my muscle that controls the outter movement of my leg is swollen and is putting pressure on my scietic (sp) nerve.
He gave me a prescription of naproxen and referred me to physical therapy. He also told me that i can continue doing what I am doing, just not as hard. I am happy with this evaluation because he actually took the time to move my legs around and reenact the pain.
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mcleod13
Orange Belt
Yeah, I lucked out and was able to get the Dr. who started the sports medicine department at my school. He couldn't belive what the other doctor did.
It is nice to know what the likely problems are and how to correct it. He even broke out the skeleton to show me what was happening.
