ohh yah almost forgot this stuff. being tradtional does not, repeat, DOES NOT, meaning driving their students into the ground (specificly 6 feet under if you catch my drift). making fun of your students is not being traditional, it's being an ******* Edited to conform to MT's profanity filter who uses his/her students to make them self feal better . and depriving your students water is't traditional in the main sense either, it's being the kind of dil hole that wants to kill his/her students by giving them a massive case of heat storke and making them train some more. and by the way, speeking from experiance, if you get heat exhaustion don't take gulps of water, sip. if you don't you'll throw up. plain and simple.