Agree with the first sentence. I do now quite get what you are saying in the second sentence. If you are saying practicing something to the point of habit doesn't increase the likelihood of using it when needed, I have to disagree.
I completely agree. Self defense is not one size fits all.
failing to read beyond that sentence makes you seem a little foolish. Should I put sarcasm tags in line for you, lest you fail to recognize it?
Sure. Here's the original
I don't think so. I said there was a reasonable argument to be made. That we can't expect to get good data around it doesn't eliminate the idea of a reasonable argument (though it does probably eliminate the possibility of a scientific assertion).
If both include similar fitness levels (to eliminate the argument that it's just the fitness), then - assuming the "self defense" training is actually developing fighting skills, it's definitely likely to be more use in some situations. Of course, there will always be situations where nothing helps significantly...and some where almost anything (assuming it provide some fitness/strength benefits) helps. I'm not sure what your point is about the incorrect attack.
If you control for individual differences (so it's not the person reacting better naturally), I can't think of any evidence that would support the idea of an untrained or barely-trained person performing as well as someone who is practiced in a skill, for any skill, under stress. Of course, if we include poorly-trained people (people who put in a lot of hours, but don't actually learn the skill), then it's a toss-up.
That's conflating variables, Jobo. That's what I was getting at earlier.
I'm curious if that's a similar proportion in the US. It's not my perception that the numbers would be as high, but that might be a misperception, or it might be just because of who I spend time around.
No, not really the same argument, at all.
I was saying I haven't seen any evidence to suggest practicing something to the point of habit doesn't increase the likelihood of using it when needed.
yea there no evidence for it and non against it either, therefore there is no evidence, which makes a conclusion that more training makes you better able to defend yourself no more than an assumption made by people either to sell additional training or to hustfiy6 doing so.
Looking at individual institutions in the US will give you a VERY skewed view of what is common. There are many schools here (hundreds among the many thousands) that are far outside the mainstream view. And individuals (like the first headline here) don't give us an idea of prevalence, either. I'll try to look for some statistics later, see what I can find.
There's a lot of evidence that shows that training a skill makes it more likely to become habit. You're not even trying. Remember, you made the claim.
but that's not the point I'm making, it's about if that will manifest itself under extreme stress, when its instincts rather than habit that's the issue, instincts are far more deeply embedded f than habbits, in my recent issue all my karate training deserted me every bit of it, all those hours were a waste of time, as under stress I just reverted back to my instincts and rugby tacked him to the ground a technique I developed when I was 6
