Dealing with a knife in reality

[Taiji Rebel]

 

[drop bear]

Not exactly super helpful. But admittedly I skimmed it.

 

[Taiji Rebel]

Not exactly super helpful. But admittedly I skimmed it.

Can you expand on your reasoning?

For example, what would super-helpful look like to you?

 

[drop bear]

But basically after the obligatory preamble of just be robbed because that is better than being stabbed.

We go into how not to be robbed. This consists of grabbing the knife hand and pretend punching, kicking, headbutting and biting the guy. With your best war face.

I mean I could have probably come up with that myself.

 

[drop bear]

Super helpful would be someone who could actually pull a rubber knife off a guy and does that fairly consistently.

Then his breakdown as to how he achieves that. So that I am learning skills I may not already have.

 

[Taiji Rebel]

But basically after the obligatory preamble of just be robbed because that is better than being stabbed.

We go into how not to be robbed. This consists of grabbing the knife hand and pretend punching, kicking, headbutting and biting the guy. With your best war face.

I mean I could have probably come up with that myself.

You could have come up with that yourself, but you didn't

 

[drop bear]

You could have come up with that yourself, but you didn't

Ironically you are correct. I had to do a few knife defence courses before I realised I wasn't really being taught anything.

Paying money for finger in the eye still embarrasses me.

 

[Taiji Rebel]

Ironically you are correct. I had to do a few knife defence courses before I realised I wasn't really being taught anything.

Who taught these knife-defence courses?

 

[drop bear]

Anyway here is this secret move called underhooks

 

[Taiji Rebel]

Anyway here is this secret move called underhooks

Not sure this video is relevant

Anyway, who was it that taught the knife-defence courses?

 

[drop bear]

Not sure this video is relevant

Anyway, who was it that taught the knife-defence courses?

Hock hochiems system. A guy called Glen Zwiers.

 

[Taiji Rebel]

Hock hochiems system. A guy called Glen Zwiers.

And these were the courses which taught you nothing?

If you learnt nothing then what made you take more than one knife-defence course with them?

 

[drop bear]

And these were the courses which taught you nothing?

If you learnt nothing then what made you take more than one knife-defence course with them?

Torture porn.

It is interesting that people don't realise they are being taught nothing. If it is framed in the right way.

 

[Taiji Rebel]

T

It is interesting that people don't realise they are being taught nothing. If it is framed in the right way.

Your statement relates perfectly to the entire martial arts industry - there are a lot of people spending a great deal of time and money learning nothing in the process

That being said, if you take the advice and concepts from the original video by Lee Morrison and practise them, you will save yourself a lot of wasted time, money and effort by doing so.

What are your biggest takeaways from the video?

Will you create your own drills in order to practise the applications?

How could you improve on the advice given?

What would you do better?

 

[drop bear]

T

Your statement relates perfectly to the entire martial arts industry - there are a lot of people spending a great deal of time and money learning nothing in the process

That being said, if you take the advice and concepts from the original video by Lee Morrison and practise them, you will save yourself a lot of wasted time, money and effort by doing so.

What are your biggest takeaways from the video?

Will you create your own drills in order to practise the applications?

How could you improve on the advice given?

What would you do better?

Is that how you think people learn to fight?

 

[drop bear]

T

Your statement relates perfectly to the entire martial arts industry - there are a lot of people spending a great deal of time and money learning nothing in the process

That being said, if you take the advice and concepts from the original video by Lee Morrison and practise them, you will save yourself a lot of wasted time, money and effort by doing so.

What are your biggest takeaways from the video?

Will you create your own drills in order to practise the applications?

How could you improve on the advice given?

What would you do better?

What exactly are involved in lee Morrison's concepts that I couldn't just make up for myself?

 

[drop bear]

Is that how you think people learn to fight?

Look. It doesn't matter how angry you are when you do one step drills. They are still one step drills and have all the same issues that drills have.

It doesn’t matter how angry you play act during one step drills. It doesn't make you brave when someone really wants to fight you.

Simulating fighting as closely as you can under the tutelage of people who are good at it. Makes you better at fighting.

This sort of training is designed to make people feel empowered by ensuring victory. Where real fight training quite often does the opposite.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Anyway here is this secret move called underhooks

Wait! That’s a secret? Damn. I’ve been giving that away too cheap.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Look. It doesn't matter how angry you are when you do one step drills. They are still one step drills and have all the same issues that drills have.

It doesn’t matter how angry you play act during one step drills. It doesn't make you brave when someone really wants to fight you.

Simulating fighting as closely as you can under the tutelage of people who are good at it. Makes you better at fighting.

This sort of training is designed to make people feel empowered by ensuring victory. Where real fight training quite often does the opposite.

That last sentence is gold. Easily the most demonstrable truth found in a genuine training facility. You can’t fake it when you are getting pummeled.

 

[Rich Parsons]

But basically after the obligatory preamble of just be robbed because that is better than being stabbed.

We go into how not to be robbed. This consists of grabbing the knife hand and pretend punching, kicking, headbutting and biting the guy. With your best war face.

I mean I could have probably come up with that myself.

Not directed to Drop Bear, just used his post as a kick off.
If I this has offended you Drop Bear, let me know and I can apologize.


Not being Robbed,
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Rule #1 Avoidance
Rule #2 See Rule number 1
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Avoid the bad parts of town or cities.
Avoid having a gas tank less than half. Treat Half as Empty so if stuck in a bad area one can continue to drive out of bad area to get gas.
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Avoid going to place where people fight or get robbed.
Avoid Banks by Banking online.
Avoid Bars and places that serve alcohol.
Avoid large crowds.
Avoid
Avoid
Avoid.
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Now for some reason one cannot avoid being robber now what.
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Give them the items they want.
I once said, can I rent that bullet for the next hour. I want it to stay in your chamber for the next hour. I will give you all my cash for that to happen.
Bad guy: Why one hour. More than enough time to leave , make sure I am not being followed and get to a safe place.
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He laughed and said you're cool. And he walked away. (* I have never understood why - so don't try and expect the same result. *)
The point I am trying to make though is that I was stalling for time and also agreeing with them. Telling them they are right and you are going to give them money, so it is nor robbery. (* Legally it still is as one is under duress - yet most lawyer if they rob a person they just Bill Them versus using a knife or gun *).
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Rich that was about a gun what about a knife.
Well either train with one and carry it where possible, or train with one and realize that anything can happen, or train with one and go back to Rule #1 and avoid the situation completely.
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I know that one family member you have to go save and now one is in a bad spot and they have a knife and not a gun. How do you defend yourself.
Avoid leaving with them.
Avoid dying. Given them your money.
Various methodology of throwing and running, or handing and leaving. One could anger them with the throw. One could get lucky and get to a vehicle and leave.
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If serious about engagement avoid the unequal level of force. Since they have deadly force, deploy your firearm or own knife.
Be ready to use it. As Brandishing a weapon even for self defense can be a legal issue ( Research local areas and talk to real lawyers )
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Find anything as a weapon of opportunity.
I once used an unopened tuna fish can against multiple opponents (armed).
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Good Luck