Bullshido: same old, same old

[Balrog]

It's been years since I logged into Bullshido. I don't know what prompted me to do it - feeling masochistic, I guess.

Same old, same old. People spouting ignorance, doing money dances on the interwebz, verbal dick waving and a host of other things. Nothing has changed.

I'm gonna go find some brain bleach now......

 

[drop bear]

Yeah. I am so glad we are much more grown up with our conversations.

Of course that is to be expected when our lineage is significantly better.

 

[Steve]

I appreciate the investigations in particular.

 

[Ironbear24]

It's a bunch of college Bros and the church of Joe Rogan having pee pee contests.

 

[Blindside]

Who have done good work showing up frauds in the Arts, other sites like this one purposefully steer clear of the messes that cause. But it is an important service.

 

[hoshin1600]

It's a bunch of college Bros and the church of Joe Rogan having pee pee contests.

i go to that church.

 

[Ironbear24]

i go to that church.

Let me lovely google that for you

 

[hoshin1600]

Let me lovely google that for you

come my friend and join me and joe on the dark side...........we have cookies.

 

[Ironbear24]

Nope. I'm fine over here.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Who have done good work showing up frauds in the Arts, other sites like this one purposefully steer clear of the messes that cause. But it is an important service.

Yes, they have. They also routinely go overboard in proclaiming what is fraud, and are relatively closed-minded on a lot of topics worth discussing in that area.

 

[Steve]

Yes, they have. They also routinely go overboard in proclaiming what is fraud, and are relatively closed-minded on a lot of topics worth discussing in that area.

Ehhh... I don't know about that. It's been a while since I've spent any quality time over there. In the past, they had an (I believe) undeserved reputation for being anti-TMA. What I found is that they have a well deserved reputation for being ant-BS. If you are a wing chun guy, great. You'll take some heat if you start to claim you can fight, etc, but that doesn't make you a fraud.

If you are a WC guy who claims to be deadly... things start to get dicey. If you are a WC guy who claims to be a former Army Ranger who is deadly, etc, then you might start to draw some attention. The guys whom they spend a lot of time investigating are people who promote claims they will not or cannot substantiate.

One of the founders of the site has a kung fu base.

It's a nuanced difference, and I get that the end result is that some styles are less welcome there than others. That's certainly a part of the site. I'm not making excuses. I am really just trying to point out that being dismissive of styles is not the same as considering them fraudulent. They really are careful to distinguish one from the other.

 

[lklawson]

I'm a (mostly inactive) member there. My experience has been, um... "mixed." Some good posters there. A lot of utter duchebags too.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[JR 137]

I'm a (mostly inactive) member there. My experience has been, um... "mixed." Some good posters there. A lot of utter duchebags too.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

And the douchers seem the loudest at a casual read. I’ve “flipped through it” a few times. Didn’t care much for the call-outs and challenge matches I saw between posters, but there were a few gems in the rough.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[drop bear]

Yes, they have. They also routinely go overboard in proclaiming what is fraud, and are relatively closed-minded on a lot of topics worth discussing in that area.

This will blow your mind then.

Least Biased - Media Bias/Fact Check

 

[drop bear]

Ehhh... I don't know about that. It's been a while since I've spent any quality time over there. In the past, they had an (I believe) undeserved reputation for being anti-TMA. What I found is that they have a well deserved reputation for being ant-BS. If you are a wing chun guy, great. You'll take some heat if you start to claim you can fight, etc, but that doesn't make you a fraud.

If you are a WC guy who claims to be deadly... things start to get dicey. If you are a WC guy who claims to be a former Army Ranger who is deadly, etc, then you might start to draw some attention. The guys whom they spend a lot of time investigating are people who promote claims they will not or cannot substantiate.

One of the founders of the site has a kung fu base.

It's a nuanced difference, and I get that the end result is that some styles are less welcome there than others. That's certainly a part of the site. I'm not making excuses. I am really just trying to point out that being dismissive of styles is not the same as considering them fraudulent. They really are careful to distinguish one from the other.

The nature of evidence based opinion is anti TMA. Because the tend not to have any.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

This will blow your mind then.

Least Biased - Media Bias/Fact Check

In their actual fraud busting, I entirely agree. In their attitudes, not so much.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

The nature of evidence based opinion is anti TMA. Because the tend not to have any.

Except all the cops, bouncers, etc. using it.

 

[drop bear]

Except all the cops, bouncers, etc. using it.

No. Including them.

Empirical Evidence (Causality) vs. Anecdotal Evidence (Correlation) » Digital Ponderings

 

[drop bear]

In their actual fraud busting, I entirely agree. In their attitudes, not so much.

The attitude is hard to counter without the correct tools.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

No. Including them.

Empirical Evidence (Causality) vs. Anecdotal Evidence (Correlation) » Digital Ponderings

You said they tend not to have any evidence. Ring evidence is related, but not direct evidence (we both conclude it is reasonably valid). You blithely dismiss all non-recorded use as just “stories”, which is just silly.