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Cirdan

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Experts, meh. You don`t have to be an expert to loose weight, it is a very simple matter of exercising and eating reasonably well. You just need to decide to DO it and change your lifestyle. And you don`t have to do 30km runs, just walking a lot is enough. I lost 20kg over 10 weeks just by walking every day and my diet wasn`t even strict, just ate a little less and cut out the worst things like chips and chocolate. I still got some padding around my stomach but I intend to keep it, I don`t need a sixpack to feel good about myself. Having a little fat can actually be healthy.

Treating fat people like they are fragile beings who need a team of specialists to improve their lives is complete BS. Same with older people, they can still benefit immensely by training.

And yes I use the word fat, F-A-T. The first step is to stop making excuses.
 

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Experts, meh. You don`t have to be an expert to loose weight, it is a very simple matter of exercising and eating reasonably well. You just need to decide to DO it and change your lifestyle. And you don`t have to do 30km runs, just walking a lot is enough. I lost 20kg over 10 weeks just by walking every day and my diet wasn`t even strict, just ate a little less and cut out the worst things like chips and chocolate. I still got some padding around my stomach but I intend to keep it, I don`t need a sixpack to feel good about myself. Having a little fat can actually be healthy.

Treating fat people like they are fragile beings who need a team of specialists to improve their lives is complete BS. Same with older people, they can still benefit immensely by training.

And yes I use the word fat, F-A-T. The first step is to stop making excuses.

While I agree in principle with most of your post, I do think that if you've let yourself get to 450 lbs (as opposed to even 50 lbs or so overweight), you probably do need help to even start moving in the right direction. Many people in that particular boat have completely given up, and have no confidence that they can make a difference. One of the things the show gives them is the knowledge that they ARE in control, and can in fact reach their goals.

Breaking old habits is definitely not an easy thing.
 

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Losing weight is simple. Only need to understand a 2 step process.

1. Eat less
2. Move more

That is it. If you do those two simple things you will lose weight. Look at any weight loss program and they all contain the same simple facts. Eat less and move more.

That is not a joke but true. I really can't understand why people make it harder that what it really is.
 

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Losing weight is simple. Only need to understand a 2 step process.

1. Eat less
2. Move more

That is it. If you do those two simple things you will lose weight. Look at any weight loss program and they all contain the same simple facts. Eat less and move more.

That is not a joke but true. I really can't understand why people make it harder that what it really is.


It involves 2 things:
Movement and self control.
 

Cirdan

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While I agree in principle with most of your post, I do think that if you've let yourself get to 450 lbs (as opposed to even 50 lbs or so overweight), you probably do need help to even start moving in the right direction. Many people in that particular boat have completely given up, and have no confidence that they can make a difference. One of the things the show gives them is the knowledge that they ARE in control, and can in fact reach their goals.

Breaking old habits is definitely not an easy thing.

If you are 450 lbs the weight is going to kill you. A person who used to train at our dojo was 500 lbs when the doctor told him he would die within a few years like that. Last time I saw him he`d lost over 120 pounds. Still a long way yo go but he actually looked good.

He was in control the whole time, he just didn`t chose to do anything about it until death looked him in the eye. While there are a few who need medical help or must be protected from themselves, the rest of us must simply accept responsibility for our own physical shape.

I was not critizising the show if you got that impression. Only watched it once or twice and it wasn`t that bad. If it can motivate people to loose weight, then good.
 

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