Having said that, in all honesty, it's fine to have a few duplicate discussions, respectfully, I think you need to be more cogniscent of the fact that it's possible to understand fully what you say and still disagree with it. You're not alone in this, and you are in good company- it's a failing common to most of our politicians.
Do you think it's possible for someone to understand your points and also disagree with your points? If so, how would that look different to you than someone refusing to get your point?
Yep, because either you do not understand or are not explaining yourself well enough.
Yes and as a matter of fact it would be impossible to disagree with somebody's point without getting it. Before you can agree or disagree with a point you have to know what it is you're agreeing or disagreeing with.
All too often I will try to use analogies to make points. When I do so, some people on this forum will change my analogy by adding to it or by some other means, that shows they're not getting my point. If they got my point they would leave my analogy the way it is.
You're partially right, but it can also be because people don't understand me or they take what I say out of context or because they don't listen (or in this case, read, since we're talking about message boards where you don't talk out loud.)
"people don't understand me or they take what I say out of context"
I understand what you mean. I use a lot of analogies, too. If someone is rephrasing your analogy and it isn't quite the same, it can feel like they're shifting goalposts.
I think it's more like dogs and cats trying to get along. Some cats and dogs are great friends, but it takes a little work. This forum is mostly cats.
I think I am more of a bear actuallyI think it's more like dogs and cats trying to get along. Some cats and dogs are great friends, but it takes a little work. This forum is mostly cats.
Exactly what a couple of cats would say.I think I am more of a bear actually
many years ago I was at this seminar thing, or possiblhy it was an early online type meeting, for the life of me I don't remember why. I remember the speaker wanted us to write down what animal do we see ourselves as, why and what is it doing.....At the time thinking, this is silly and I want no part of this.... I wrote down nothing. But then sometime later, on a sunny warn day while I was out for a walk after lunch, while at work. That question popped into my head and so did an answer.... A bear, sitting in a cave watching dragons play in the rain...no idea why, no idea what it means...but whatever that thing I was at was for...that is all I got out of it....Exactly what a couple of cats would say.
No one refused to get your points. You just don't like we don't always agree with you so you keep banging on until we agree, which doesn't happen or we stop reading what you write.
So you're saying it's my problem when people take what I say out of context.
Exactly.
Well that's just the thing, it can be hard to tell the difference because sometimes there might not be much difference, if there's even any difference at all. When you build on an analogy you are in fact reshaping it to a certain extent because after you build on it it isn't the same.
Sometimes to do miss my points, at least some people on the forum do.
There’s a principle in improv called “yes, and”. Have you heard of it?
