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talkin to me?Marginal said:That's not an especially accurate history.
I am, after reading this, literally speechless.coungnhuka said:o.k. i'm probly going to tick off every taekwondoka here, but sae la vie (french for that's life).taekwondo was orginally made by general choi of the south korean army as the disarmed form of combat (a heavly modified version is taught for much the same reason to the armys of most countrys including the u.s.). General Choi was acctuly born in the north, but fled to the south, being himself democratic. when japan took over korea in WWII the japanese goverment out lawed native martial arts, driving most of them to the break of extensoin, and completly destroying tae kwon according to legend. as a way to 'japanese' the koreans, the japanese goverment forced many people to learn japanese martial arts, namely Shotokan Karate-do. when the japanese were forced to leave korea they the karate they had forced the koreans to learn. then when korea split into north and south the southern general used Shotokan as a basis for a knew style. and to give it lagitimicy to his country men he saide it was derived from tae kwon, which he saide the japanese had destroyed. this was not true, in fact tae kwon is still in fact taught, but very few taekwondoka would ever knew. why? since tea kwon is really only taught in north korea. taekwondo became a very well know stlyeand many people began to slack off on their training and taught what they often refered to as "inproved taekwondo". know then what is really traditional teakwondo? well, outside south korea (since it is a crime in at least south korea to teach taekwondo in the north), nothing really. in south korea, taekwondo. they don't really have the so called improved, or combat style. so why do i say that alot people will get ticked off for saying this? well for any none taekwondoka, most taekwondoka get ticked off if you argue with the lineage of either themselves to general choi, or their stlye to tae kwon. that is why (forgot this part) taekwondo in korea looks differnit, and you also donn't see alot of korean taekwondoka in the oylimpics, since when they spar it's full contact. in fact you don't score a point unless the force of your kick knocks your opponent back 4 inches, or on their butt, i beleive. know the contact is full and you have to move your opponent back so far, i'm just not shure how far.
sweet Brighit bless your blade
John
Uh Yeah....never mind.coungnhuka said:in South korea if you teach taekwon do to some one from North Korea it is considered treason. taekwon do was devopled as a, for lack of a better phrase, secert method to use if norht korea decided to try and attack. which is also why north korea has alot of tae kwon schools, to deal with that little unpleasintry.
Great advice!!Kenpojujitsu3 said:The TKD I learned was also termed "traditional" it was conditioning heavy (especially legs and abs). And it was about 60% hands and 40% feet. I look at "Olympic TKD" and respect and marvel at what they do but also think "wow what I learned looks nothing like that." My advise, just go to a few classes and if you like what you see sign up. Don't make it obvious to the instructor what your looking for. I have seen instructors "change the lesson plan" to reflect what someone is looking for that day just to get them to sign a contract. Then when the person actually signs up they wonder when they'll see that kind of training again.
searcher said:Not to make waves or anything, but TKD is not 2000 years old. It is actually less than 100 years old. You might be referring to Tae Kyon, which was added to Shotokan Karate by General Choi to create TKD.
where do you get general choi is the founding father of tkd, you mean modern day tkd don't you. TKD has been around since 37bc and there is enough evidence to support thoughs thereys. Why does everbody put choi as the founding father of tkd, and by the way he trained in Okinawa more than japan. Okinawa is there own country not part of Japan.JAMJTX said:Traditional TKD would be as it was originally taught by General Choi, the founder.
It is doubtful that Korean martial arts have been around for thousands of years. Evidence does not support that idea.
General Choi lived in Japan for 30 years, returning to Korea after WWII. While there he studied Japanese Karate, primarily Shotokan. When TKD was first developed, all of the forms taught were Japanese/Okinawan.
The original form of TKD was taught in the military and is effective self defense.
Jim Mc Coy
You hush. You haven't demonstrated any knowledge of TKD whatsoever with your past contributions, and you have no business talking like you're an expert on the subject.coungnhuka said:ahhh Terry, I don't know how to tell you this, but Okinaowa is owned by Japan, and Tae Kwon Do was made prodimitly by General Choi. Korean Martial Arts have been around by for thousands of years, but Tae Kwon Do isn't one of them.
I too am stuck at the onset with how one defines "traditional."hardheadjarhead said:As far as "traditional," how does one define the word? One could come up with several definitions:
--An art that is practiced as it was, essentially, years before with little change or modification from the spirit of the art
--An art that practices certain traditions of respect, courtesy, etc.
--An art that combines both of the above.
--The art that is considered the most popular and widely practiced, and assumes the mantle of "traditional" even though it has evolved over time into something that vaguely resembles what it was decades before.