I think he cares because people usually lump things togather (like good TKD with bad TKD), in this case all Korean MA's. My two cents.
MichiganTKD said:I call'em like I see'em. And he is a total whore. Everything is for sale, he can't advertise enough, and his teaching is third rate. I know because I've seen it. Don't blame me if you choose to associate with the ones who give Tae Kwon Do a bad name. That's your choice.
Anyway, since you practice Hapkido, why do you care about Tae Kwon Do's image?
First, I never mentioned anybody in particular. I was adding my thoughts about Tae Kwon Do Instructors who prostitute the art and make it look cheap. Nobody's name came up. When I said it was your choice to hang around these Instructors, I was speaking hypothetically. And if you believe I was implying one person in particular was guilty, I was not. ...
Bruce,glad2bhere said:Ive watched these exchanges, back and forth, for a little bit, and honestly dont know what to make of them. I can say that as I read them I remember that the continent of Africa could have become one of the major powerhouses in World politics except that national forces around the world constantly stoked the tribal conflicts to keep the continent from uniting--- while they stole it blind. Are we dealing with the same thing in the Korean Martial Arts? Are there folks who need to keep KMA at each others throats because conflict breeds novelty and drama in otherwise humdrum lives? The two reasons I raise this response are as follows.
First of all I can find no Rational explanation for exchanges like these. I was the focus of one such exchange a little bit ago and still cannot reconcile what that was all about. It has something to do with bad feelings but beyond that I am at a loss. I remember one unbalanced fellow who once conceded that he enjoyed stirring up chaos for its own sake, and suggested it as a form of attention-getting (free advertising?) by which he was kept as the focus of attention. Good for his business but bad for the KMA--- not that he was probably very concerned about the latter.
Secondly I see no productive outcome from these exchanges. Its not like anything is going to be resolved and the KMA made better by an ultimate reconciliation. Instead someone is going to escalate over another person--- up and up--- until someone says something that cant be backed down from--- on a very public stage--- and then we have crossed a line which is very difficult to come back across. But nothing will actually be resolved. Therefore, I would like to suggest something.
My suggestion is that we train in activities geared towards power and control. Like an orchestra constantly tuning up for a performance that is never given, we run our forms, perform our drills and play our respective parts over and over again. Some of us hone our skills to extraordinary levels, but only with the view of never actually getting to use the skills for the intent for which they were originated. My sense is that the frustration can be terrible, like those Special Forces soldiers who train their whole careers and are never part of the 10% who actually see combat. Out of frustration, then, we turn on each other with some unstated prayer that we can pick a conflict with a fraternal practitioner who will appreciate such a frustration albeit at an unconscious level and furnish us with an opportunity to relieve that pressure.
For my part, as an outside observer, I can only encourage people to learn to deal with such pressure as it is the inevitable result of the Warriors Path we have elected to follow. And if we can learn to reconcile such conflicts as this we will no doubt be successful in bringing peace to the conflicts of others. Nobody said following a Warriors Path was going to be easy. At least, nobody ever said it to me. FWIW.
I totally agree, Steve.hardheadjarhead said:I've argued that there are good TKD schools out there--and there are--but there are a huge number that can't teach (or won't teach) their students effective fundamentals of fighting. Many of us are still doing silly little one steps to defend against an impact weapon, or we're totally clueless as to what to do when taken to the ground.
This left us with the "warrior wannabes", the soccer moms and their kids. Other systems picked up the young men and women who care to learn to tussle. Blaming society for our failures accomplishes nothing.
glad2bhere said:1.) Racism.
I am continually surprised at how reluctant people are to represent their needs in their KMA career. A person will not approach a leader/master because they are intimidated by those epicanthic folds in the eyes and the broken English. They won't approach those Oriental features because they seem to bespeak an authority about KMA that noone but an Oriental can have.
What would happen to any of us if we decided we wanted a college education so we go into the nearest school, pick a classroom at random and sit down? Isn't that how a lot of people pick their KMA school?
I have to tell you very honestly that I am not so sure that the Koreans have been holding control of TKD/TSD/HKD as much as we Westerners have been to lazy to speak-up about what our needs are.
Han-Mi said:Do you encounter the same stigma toward TKD when in such a situation?
OlympicTKD said:So if anyone things that Taekwondo is not as well respected, I am willing to bet they would lie about other things too. And that they are really a close-minded individual with little experience.