-LOL, you don't need evidence to argue your point, but it helps. I have evidence to support my claims. You do not.There is no evidence needed. You are stating your opinion based on a small group of people by comparison to all those that train TMA.
-I am saying that any art that doesn't have empty hand techniques that resemble what is seen in the UFC doesn't have the most effective empty hand techniques. If thousands upon thousands of amateur and professional fights, challenge matches, and sparring sessions aren't overwhelming proof, then I don't know what would ever be proof to you.You are basing the UFC as evidence that all of TMA is useless and kata based. You want me to except as overwhelming proof that all Traditional martial artists all over the world are no good based on the UFC.
That is simply not overwhelming proof.
-That's also great. You should expand your horizons more and add as many different styles as possible to that list.I currently train 2 different CMA styles I have trained greater than 2. I have used CMA to spare, TDK, Karate, Aikido, and other CMA. Since techniques and or applications can be similar from one TMA to another I can not say which was this CMA and which was that CMA and which was jujitsu and which was TDK.
I also said I trained Jujitsu and non-sport tdk before.
-You can't use information, you claim to have, that you won't share to argue your point.And being specific would help how?
I have already stated that I use to work in a hospital that had a mental health and detox. I was security at the time, which is as specific as I will get.
-I am interested in your side, but you haven't produced any evidence to support your claims. I stated what my definition of TMA is. If its wrong, I don't want to make that the focus of the discussion. I will gladly use the term "kata focussed arts that don't spar" in its place.And you are then only interested in a one sided debate, is that what I am understanding here.
And how is it not relevant to the thread? If you are stating that TMA is no good without pressure testing than you have made it relevant by your own statement. If you have never trained TMA then how you would you know what it is and if it is good or not?
I have never trained in an art that is kata focussed and doesn't spar. Arts that are kata focussed and don't spar that don't have techniques that resemble techniques found in MMA don't have the most effective empty hand techniques. Do you see my point now? TMA is so much easier to type...