Repeated movements in the first form

[SifuBoza]

So, you’re claiming WC includes spears, shields, cavalry, long and short bows, Bowie knives, firearms, maces and flails, and scimitars?

Yes wing chun covers all that in fighthing. You think ng mei didnt thought about that weapons in her time ?

 

[SifuBoza]

So, you’re claiming WC includes spears, shields, cavalry, long and short bows, Bowie knives, firearms, maces and flails, and scimitars?

Did you thing ng mei didnt think about that ? Yes she is ofc

 

[Gerry Seymour11]

I Dont belive i that. Wing chun is not for all ppl ofc. Because of that you got many styles but only 1 is for humanity

You don’t believe people have physical limitations????

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf106]

Yes of course. Do you belive that 300years ago there was only swords for fighthing ?

What is the wing chun answer for someone shooting a gun at you, from 50 feet away? Or an arrow?

 

[Kung Fu Wang106]

When you get title for grandmaster your skill is done..he lives full life of joy and health, no need to practice speed ànd power anymore only forms

Even when you are 80 years old, you still need to polish your knock down power in case you need it. The worse nightmare for a GM is a 18 years old who throws a punch and knock him out.

Form is for teaching and learning only. Form is not for training.

 

[SifuBoza]

You don’t believe people have physical limitations????

Ofc i do but for cold weapons and hand fighthing wing chun have no limitations

 

[SifuBoza]

What is the wing chun answer for someone shooting a gun at you, from 50 feet away? Or an arrow?

From 50 feet you cant defend only if they miss you, but from 25 feet you can.

 

[SifuBoza]

Even when you are 80 years old, you still need to polish your knock down power in case you need it. The worse nightmare for a GM is a 18 years old who throws a punch and knock him out.

Form is for teaching and learning only. Form is not for training.

Forms are everything in wing chun.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf106]

From 50 feet you cant defend only if they miss you, but from 25 feet you can.

So is that not a flaw in wing chun?

 

[Gerry Seymour11]

So is that not a flaw in wing chun?

It is at least a limitation.

 

[geezer]

Forms are everything in wing chun.

Boza... I can't argue with your boundless faith in WC. Faith is not constrained by facts. So I grant you your faith. By contrast, I still love WC, but I am not a person of faith, either in religion or martial arts. For me beliefs can be a fine thing, but without objective evidence to support them, they are ...just beliefs.

Now regarding your quote above on forms being everything, my old Chinese sifu said of Wing Tsun (his branch of the WC tree), "There are four important parts of training: forms, drills, chi-sau and sparring. You must train all of them to be effective. Then he gave us gloves and headgear!

The biggest problem with WC in the modern world is that there is little to no sparring and fighting. Most practitioners are either hobbyists who at most do a little light and playful sparring with other WC students, or they are "untouchable Sifus" who wont spar because they know that they will get hit (as everyone does). Then their followers will lose their faith and quit.

Honestly? I have been guilty of both of these flaws. Now, I am a 67 year old hobbyist who practices and teaches WC for fun and not for fighting. And even when I was younger I was at best pretty decent, but never great.

To conclude, I'd add that I most admire sifus who behave as coaches, not as demigods. Maybe somebody like ...I don't know, maybe Alan Orr? ...He seems to act like a good coach, and in the videos I've seen, he keeps it real.

 

[Wing Woo Gar40]

Wing chun isnt dance art...it is brutal art for injuring ppl.

I doubt that this applies to you based on what you post.

 

[Wing Woo Gar40]

When you know wing chun you are.

No, you are not. No one.

 

[Wing Woo Gar40]

Why is wing chun not perfect ?

Because no martial art is perfect. No thing is perfect.

 

[SifuBoza]

So is that not a flaw in wing chun?

It is not because nobody will point a gun from 50 feet at you

 

[SifuBoza]

Boza... I can't argue with your boundless faith in WC. Faith is not constrained by facts. So I grant you your faith. By contrast, I still love WC, but I am not a person of faith, either in religion or martial arts. For me beliefs can be a fine thing, but without objective evidence to support them, they are ...just beliefs.

Now regarding your quote above on forms being everything, my old Chinese sifu said of Wing Tsun (his branch of the WC tree), "There are four important parts of training: forms, drills, chi-sau and sparring. You must train all of them to be effective. Then he gave us gloves and headgear!

The biggest problem with WC in the modern world is that there is little to no sparring and fighting. Most practitioners are either hobbyists who at most do a little light and playful sparring with other WC students, or they are "untouchable Sifus" who wont spar because they know that they will get hit (as everyone does). Then their followers will lose their faith and quit.

Honestly? I have been guilty of both of these flaws. Now, I am a 67 year old hobbyist who practices and teaches WC for fun and not for fighting. And even when I was younger I was at best pretty decent, but never great.

To conclude, I'd add that I most admire sifus who behave as coaches, not as demigods. Maybe somebody like ...I don't know, maybe Alan Orr? ...He seems to act like a good coach, and in the videos I've seen, he keeps it real.

I agree with you about your sifu...you need to do spar to see can wc work against that and that. I spar almost everyday and wc work against all type of attacks. When you do apply principles you cant lose. I dont know if you know that when wc is created they first use weapons because long time ago there was fighthing with weapons not hands. Now imagine creators of wc made wc with flaws...they will get sliced with 1 mistake and died. I want to tell, wc has no flaws if you train corecrtly..sry for my english

 

[_Simon_105]

.......................... oh boy.....

 

[SifuBoza]

.......................... oh boy.....

I know...

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf106]

It is not because nobody will point a gun from 50 feet at you

Yes they will? That has happened countless times that people have been shot from farther than 25 feet away.

 

[Wing Woo Gar40]

Are you grandmaster so you claim i am not right ?

I am no such thing. I am a student of martial arts for some time. Yes, i am telling you that are incorrect. Titles and ranks mean very little to me. You may call yourself the grand Poohbah of whatever and wear some snazzy costume, but it doesn’t translate to a skill.