Repeated movements in the first form

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Coming from a karate perspective....

If you want to practice a basic movement over and over it is called "kihon training" or foundational training. You do the basics over and over to perfect them and ingrain them into your body. Sometimes this is done from a stationary stance and other times you do it while moving.

Many times when you see a move performed multiple times in a form, you need to look at what came just before it, such as the technique(s), stance change or angle change. Because while the move seems to be the same, the application is different.

With a VERY limited understanding of WC, I think that this is why things are repeated. You are working on transitioning between ideas.
 
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Coming from a karate perspective....

If you want to practice a basic movement over and over it is called "kihon training" or foundational training. You do the basics over and over to perfect them and ingrain them into your body. Sometimes this is done from a stationary stance and other times you do it while moving.

Many times when you see a move performed multiple times in a form, you need to look at what came just before it, such as the technique(s), stance change or angle change. Because while the move seems to be the same, the application is different.

With a VERY limited understanding of WC, I think that this is why things are repeated. You are working on transitioning between ideas.
Good answer thank you
 

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Coming from a karate perspective....

If you want to practice a basic movement over and over it is called "kihon training" or foundational training. You do the basics over and over to perfect them and ingrain them into your body. Sometimes this is done from a stationary stance and other times you do it while moving.
This concept is true of so many things, especially motor tasks (as compared to "intellectual pursuits). Among the subjects I've taught is high school ceramics, and this same principle applies. Learn the correct way to do a fundamental task, then repeat it again and again until it becomes second nature. Now I have a cool sounding word to describe that concept: Kihon training.

Thanks! :D
 

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You do the basics over and over to perfect them and ingrain them into your body.
This can be done in 2 different ways:

1. Drill your move right, left, right, left, ... and repeat 2N times.
2. Drill your move N times on your right, then N times on your left.

IMO, 2 is better than 1.

In this clip, the circle walking is repeated 3 times in the form (0.20, 0.38, 1.02). If one only trains the form, he may be good in clockwise circle walking only. This is why a form needs to be break apart and drill on both sides.

 
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Responding to the original question - why do we repeat the fook sao section 3 times

For HFY, this section is referred to as the Saam Bai Fut part of Siu Nim Tao. It combines techniques with layered natures (fook, gum, deng, pak, leet, wu) which can be done in several different ways. Culturally, there's also an element of the 3.5 incense bowing, but that's going to be particular to boxer society wing chun.
 

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Can someone explain to me why some movements are repeated in the first form?
I can and if you really want to know it's going to cost you a $75 monthly subscription to my live video show "Vigorously Applied Wing Chun" on PornHub.
 
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No thanks. I am curious what the difference is between your real wing chun and any other wing chun might be? At 75.00 a class it better be super powers.
Yes because if you know "real" wing chun its like you have super powers nobody can tuch you. The defference between my wing chun and others is that my wing chun covers all "what if" situations.
 

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Yes because if you know "real" wing chun its like you have super powers nobody can tuch you. The defference between my wing chun and others is that my wing chun covers all "what if" situations.
You are obviously kidding. What if I can touch you? Do you have to pay me 75.00? Because if thats a bet, Im in.
 
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I mean usually I charge more than 75.00 for touching.
It seems you didnt understand...wing chun is for selfdefense so it means nobody can touch you. Any sort of hit,grab,push anything. "What if" means, any sort of attack, 1,2,3,4 and more hits(jab,hook,uppercut,kicks whatever) wingchun covers that all. So i dont need to know what would you go. Wing chun is perfect for fighting. It is science
 

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It seems you didnt understand...wing chun is for selfdefense so it means nobody can touch you. Any sort of hit,grab,push anything. "What if" means, any sort of attack, 1,2,3,4 and more hits(jab,hook,uppercut,kicks whatever) wingchun covers that all. So i dont need to know what would you go. Wing chun is perfect for fighting. It is science
Oh I understand just fine. You say you are untouchable, I say I can touch you.
 

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It seems you didnt understand...wing chun is for selfdefense so it means nobody can touch you. Any sort of hit,grab,push anything. "What if" means, any sort of attack, 1,2,3,4 and more hits(jab,hook,uppercut,kicks whatever) wingchun covers that all. So i dont need to know what would you go. Wing chun is perfect for fighting. It is science
You say Wing Chun is perfect. I say nothing is perfect, everything has a counter.
 

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Wing chun dont have sry to disapoint you. I told you it covers all aspects of fighthing, acceptd that
The only thing disappointing is that you are making some big claims about your supposed prowess. Its not a good look. There is nothing wrong with Wing Chun per se, but it is not perfect, nothing is.
 
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