Well, an exchange that got somewhat out of hand-and justifiably so-on this thread, along with a trend of continuing, obsessive and inane posts on the “racism of the Democratic party,” supported by quotes that are often from 50-100 years ago, led me to start another thread with this post; I’ll start this post with some quotes from the most prominent of Republicans, a man respected by Republicans and Democrats as a great President, if not the greatest-a man revered by many for the Emancipation Proclamation-the man who “freed the slaves,” and “made all men equal”-I give you, at his “finest,”
Abraham Lincoln:
Of course, the War between the States became a war for abolition, and Lincoln did what he thought was best for the country-and such quotes are evidence of his being a product of his times and upbringing. Who knows what he would have had to say had he lived past the age of 56-to the ripe old age of John Adams, our first Vice President, and second President, who lived to be almost 91. But Lincoln got what many get for doing what they think is right-however they feel personally: a bullet in the head.
Of course, I could use those quotes to show the Republican partyÂ’s history of racism, as some might, but thatÂ’s not at all the point IÂ’m trying to make here.
Later, LBJ championed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and as a Democratic President, doing what he thought was best for his country. As a congressman from Texas, however, he opposed earlier civil rights legislation-of course, he was doing his job by representing his constituency, and their wishes. In one instance or the other he went against however he felt personally, and did what he thought was the right-or politic-thing to do. After he passed the Civil Rights Act, what was previously a Democratic South started voting Republican, abandoning a party that had not supported what was, essentially, a southern ideology of oppression and segregation towards blacks-whatever forms such things might have taken in the north of the country notwithstanding.
Malcom X spent most of his life as something of a racist, and some might say with good reason. He shook off the laughable ideologies of the Nation of Islam, as well as his own racism, though, to say that he could no longer embrace complete separation of the races, and would accept help from anyone, of any race, in any quarter, for the furthering of his goal of prosperity and equality for the members of his “race.” Shame that he got what so many get for speaking their truth: a bullet in the head. Sadly, Malcom is chiefly remembered by many for his racism and militancy, rather than his later conversion (flip-flop? Epiphany?) to a more moderate stance.
Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed civil rights right up through 1964, and was a member of the KKK at one time. He’s since come to call his KKK membership a foolishness of his youth, and say that he was wrong to oppose the Civil Rights Act. He tried to increase the budget for the Martin Luther King Memorial by $10 million, saying that “…with the passage of time, I have come to learn that his dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently.” I’ve met the man several times, and, well, he’s old, and a product of his time and place-as we all are-but he’s tried, I believe, and continues to try to be a good man, as well as a good politician-though his positions on civil rights and race continue to be all over the map, as are some of his statements. He’s said that he’d take back his opposition to the Civil Rights Act, if he could-that he sees how the country needed it, and has improved because of it….are we to call him a racist simply because he obviously was one, once, and may even still harbor racist thoughts (as, I believe, we all do) or are we to believe that a person-and therefore an entire party-can change?
Or, should we absurdly, inanely, simplistically and repeatedly label Republicans as “racist,” for what the great man and great President some would call their founder said, more than 100 years ago?
Abraham Lincoln:
"Negro equality! Fudge!! How long, in the government of a God, great enough to make and maintain this Universe, shall there continue to be knaves to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagogism as this?" - Abraham Lincoln (From Fragments: Notes for Speeches, September 1859, Vol. III, p.399 of The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln).
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the White and Black races--that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with White people, and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the White and Black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the White race. . . I give. . . the most solemn pledge that I will to the very last, stand by the law of the State, which forbids the marrying of white people with negroes." - Abraham Lincoln (Fourth Debate with Stephen Douglas at Charleston, Illinois on September 18, 1858, Vol. III, p. 145-146 of The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln).
"Now I say to you, my fellow citizen, that in my opinion, the signers of the Declaration of Independence had no reference to the Negro whatever. One great evidence is to be found in the fact that at the time every one of the thirteen colonies was a slaveholding colony, every signer of the Declaration representing a slaveholding constituency, and not one of them emancipated his slaves, much less offered citizenship to them when they signed the Declaration. If they intended to declare the Negro was equal of the white man, they were bound that day and hour to have put the Negroes on an equality with themselves." - Abraham Lincoln, during the October 16, 1858 debate in Peoria, IL with Douglas. "
I can conceive of no greater calamity than the assimilation of the Negro into our social and political life as our equal. . . We can never attain the ideal union our fathers dreamed, with millions of an alien, inferior race among us, whose assimilation is neither possible nor desirable." - Abraham Lincoln, after signing the Emancipation Proclamation (like other presidents, Lincoln sought to repatriation of freed Blacks to Africa).
Of course, the War between the States became a war for abolition, and Lincoln did what he thought was best for the country-and such quotes are evidence of his being a product of his times and upbringing. Who knows what he would have had to say had he lived past the age of 56-to the ripe old age of John Adams, our first Vice President, and second President, who lived to be almost 91. But Lincoln got what many get for doing what they think is right-however they feel personally: a bullet in the head.
Of course, I could use those quotes to show the Republican partyÂ’s history of racism, as some might, but thatÂ’s not at all the point IÂ’m trying to make here.
Later, LBJ championed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and as a Democratic President, doing what he thought was best for his country. As a congressman from Texas, however, he opposed earlier civil rights legislation-of course, he was doing his job by representing his constituency, and their wishes. In one instance or the other he went against however he felt personally, and did what he thought was the right-or politic-thing to do. After he passed the Civil Rights Act, what was previously a Democratic South started voting Republican, abandoning a party that had not supported what was, essentially, a southern ideology of oppression and segregation towards blacks-whatever forms such things might have taken in the north of the country notwithstanding.
Malcom X spent most of his life as something of a racist, and some might say with good reason. He shook off the laughable ideologies of the Nation of Islam, as well as his own racism, though, to say that he could no longer embrace complete separation of the races, and would accept help from anyone, of any race, in any quarter, for the furthering of his goal of prosperity and equality for the members of his “race.” Shame that he got what so many get for speaking their truth: a bullet in the head. Sadly, Malcom is chiefly remembered by many for his racism and militancy, rather than his later conversion (flip-flop? Epiphany?) to a more moderate stance.
Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed civil rights right up through 1964, and was a member of the KKK at one time. He’s since come to call his KKK membership a foolishness of his youth, and say that he was wrong to oppose the Civil Rights Act. He tried to increase the budget for the Martin Luther King Memorial by $10 million, saying that “…with the passage of time, I have come to learn that his dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently.” I’ve met the man several times, and, well, he’s old, and a product of his time and place-as we all are-but he’s tried, I believe, and continues to try to be a good man, as well as a good politician-though his positions on civil rights and race continue to be all over the map, as are some of his statements. He’s said that he’d take back his opposition to the Civil Rights Act, if he could-that he sees how the country needed it, and has improved because of it….are we to call him a racist simply because he obviously was one, once, and may even still harbor racist thoughts (as, I believe, we all do) or are we to believe that a person-and therefore an entire party-can change?
Or, should we absurdly, inanely, simplistically and repeatedly label Republicans as “racist,” for what the great man and great President some would call their founder said, more than 100 years ago?