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GouRonin
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How many of the Parker Kenpoists here still use the belt pledges as part of their belt system?
Klondike93
Master Black Belt
Well, I know GD7 does as he has said so, and the school I go to has them posted on the wall but I have yet to hear any students have to recite them. The first kenpo school I went to, you had to recite the kenpo pledge a couple of times a week.
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Chuck
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Chuck
Belt Pledge? If its what I think it is, I've heard the kids classes do it, but haven't seen any adult classes do it.
Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
Yes, I require all the Pledges. I don't think many other studios do however, sad. I feel there is much to learn and ponder. Like other areas of our art, we should not lessen the philosophy.
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Kirk
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #6
No pledges here.
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Rob_Broad
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #7
My first instructor had us use the pledges even though we were a Tracy school. I thought they were a great idea.
Robbo
Purple Belt
We have pledges for each belt, but we only had to repeat them after the grading instructor. Do you guys have to memorize them. Do you have to keep the all straight? Could get a little much at 5th degree. Or is the only pledge that is relevent the one for your rank?
Thanks,
Rob
Thanks,
Rob
Kenpo beginner question here:
Whats the pledge?
Whats the pledge?
Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
There are several..... one for each Belt ..... Orange through Black. They can be found near the beginning of Infinite Insights Volume #'s 3, 4, & 5.
Kenpo Pledges:
ORANGE BELT PLEDGE
I UNDERSTAND THAT I AM BUT A BEGINNER IN A NEW
AND FASCINATING ART WHICH WILL DIRECT ME TO GREATER
OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES. TO HONOR MY
OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES, I PLEDGE MYSELF TO
SERVE MY INSTRUCTOR, FELLOW STUDENTS, AND FELLOW
MEN.
PURPLE BELT PLEDGE
I HOLD THE ART OF KENPO SACRED, AND FREELY TAKE
UPON MYSELF THE OBLIGATION AND RESPONSIBILITY THAT I
SHALL NEVER MISUSE MY SKILL TO HURT OR MAKE AFRAID. I
SHALL FIGHT ONLY IF FORCED TO DEFEND MYSELF, AND SHALL
BE SLOW TO ANGER, LOATH TO TAKE OFFENSE, QUICK TO
FORGIVE AND TO FORGET PERSONAL AFFRONT.
BLUE BELT PLEDGE
I SHALL NEVER LET PRIDE RULE MY PASSIONS, AND WILL
DEFEND WITH ALL THE SKILL I POSSESS: THE WEAK, THE
HELPLESS, AND THE OPPRESSED. I PLEDGE AN
UNSWERVING LOYALTY TO THE ASSOCIATION AND MY
INSTRUCTOR. IN ADDITION, I PLEDGE AN UNENDING EFFORT
TO EARN THE SELF SAME LOYALTY FROM THOSE WHO LOOK
TO ME FOR TRAINING.
GREEN BELT PLEDGE
I PLEDGE A CONTINUED EFFORT TO SHARPEN MY SKILLS,
TO INCREASE MY KNOWLEDGE, AND BROADEN MY
HORIZONS. I SHALL OBLIGATE MYSELF UNDER THE
DIRECTION OF MY INSTRUCTOR TO LEARN THE SKILLS OF A
TEACHER, WHICH WILL ENABLE ME TO TEACH MY SKILLS IN
THE PRESCRIBED MANNER OUTLINED BY MR. PARKER.
3RD DEGREE BROWN BELT PLEDGE
I PLEDGE THAT AS MY SKILL AS A TEACHER PROGRESSES,
I WILL NEVER CONDEMN, RIDICULE, EMBARRASS, OR SHAME
ANY STUDENT OR FELLOW INSTRUCTOR IN THE PRESENCE
OF A CLASS OR GROUP. ALL GRIEVANCES OR DISPUTES
SHALL BE CONDUCTED IN PRIVATE, AWAY FROM GROUP
OBSERVATION.
2ND DEGREE BROWN BELT PLEDGE
I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE A DOCTOR, THE PRIVATE
AFFAIRS OF STUDENTS AND FELLOW INSTRUCTORS THAT
COME TO MY ATTENTION DURING THE EXERCISING OF MY
RESPONSIBILITIES ARE PRIVILEGE COMMUNICATIONS AND
MUST NEVER BE DISCUSSED WITH ANY LIVING SOUL. I VOW
THAT I WILL NEVER VIOLATE THIS PLEDGE NOR ANY OTHER
FOR THE SAKE OF PERSONAL BENEFIT.
1ST BROWN BELT PLEDGE
I HONOR AND HOLD SACRED THE RIGHT OF ALL MEN TO
PROTECT THEMSELVES. I FURTHER HOLD THAT AS A TRAINED
MARTIAL ARTIST IN KENPO, I WILL TAKE UPON MYSELF ALL
OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES DEEMED SACRED TO
MY GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY, AND ASSOCIATION.
1ST BLACK BELT PLEDGE
I HOLD THAT MY TIME AND MY SKILL ARE THE ASSETS TO
MY PROFESSION, ASSETS WHICH GROW IN VALUE AS I
PROGRESS IN KENPO, UNTIL AS A THIRD DEGREE BLACK BELT
I STAND AS A FULLY QUALIFIED INSTRUCTOR. IT SHALL ALSO
BE MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT ANY INDIVIDUALS WHO
WOULD TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PERSONAL
WEAKNESSES TO DIVEST THE GULLIBLE INTO UNPROFITABLE
PATHS. TO PRESERVE THE SACRED THINGS, GOD, FAMILY,
AND COUNTRY, I PLEDGE MY ALL.
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Kenpo Pledges:
ORANGE BELT PLEDGE
I UNDERSTAND THAT I AM BUT A BEGINNER IN A NEW
AND FASCINATING ART WHICH WILL DIRECT ME TO GREATER
OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES. TO HONOR MY
OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES, I PLEDGE MYSELF TO
SERVE MY INSTRUCTOR, FELLOW STUDENTS, AND FELLOW
MEN.
PURPLE BELT PLEDGE
I HOLD THE ART OF KENPO SACRED, AND FREELY TAKE
UPON MYSELF THE OBLIGATION AND RESPONSIBILITY THAT I
SHALL NEVER MISUSE MY SKILL TO HURT OR MAKE AFRAID. I
SHALL FIGHT ONLY IF FORCED TO DEFEND MYSELF, AND SHALL
BE SLOW TO ANGER, LOATH TO TAKE OFFENSE, QUICK TO
FORGIVE AND TO FORGET PERSONAL AFFRONT.
BLUE BELT PLEDGE
I SHALL NEVER LET PRIDE RULE MY PASSIONS, AND WILL
DEFEND WITH ALL THE SKILL I POSSESS: THE WEAK, THE
HELPLESS, AND THE OPPRESSED. I PLEDGE AN
UNSWERVING LOYALTY TO THE ASSOCIATION AND MY
INSTRUCTOR. IN ADDITION, I PLEDGE AN UNENDING EFFORT
TO EARN THE SELF SAME LOYALTY FROM THOSE WHO LOOK
TO ME FOR TRAINING.
GREEN BELT PLEDGE
I PLEDGE A CONTINUED EFFORT TO SHARPEN MY SKILLS,
TO INCREASE MY KNOWLEDGE, AND BROADEN MY
HORIZONS. I SHALL OBLIGATE MYSELF UNDER THE
DIRECTION OF MY INSTRUCTOR TO LEARN THE SKILLS OF A
TEACHER, WHICH WILL ENABLE ME TO TEACH MY SKILLS IN
THE PRESCRIBED MANNER OUTLINED BY MR. PARKER.
3RD DEGREE BROWN BELT PLEDGE
I PLEDGE THAT AS MY SKILL AS A TEACHER PROGRESSES,
I WILL NEVER CONDEMN, RIDICULE, EMBARRASS, OR SHAME
ANY STUDENT OR FELLOW INSTRUCTOR IN THE PRESENCE
OF A CLASS OR GROUP. ALL GRIEVANCES OR DISPUTES
SHALL BE CONDUCTED IN PRIVATE, AWAY FROM GROUP
OBSERVATION.
2ND DEGREE BROWN BELT PLEDGE
I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE A DOCTOR, THE PRIVATE
AFFAIRS OF STUDENTS AND FELLOW INSTRUCTORS THAT
COME TO MY ATTENTION DURING THE EXERCISING OF MY
RESPONSIBILITIES ARE PRIVILEGE COMMUNICATIONS AND
MUST NEVER BE DISCUSSED WITH ANY LIVING SOUL. I VOW
THAT I WILL NEVER VIOLATE THIS PLEDGE NOR ANY OTHER
FOR THE SAKE OF PERSONAL BENEFIT.
1ST BROWN BELT PLEDGE
I HONOR AND HOLD SACRED THE RIGHT OF ALL MEN TO
PROTECT THEMSELVES. I FURTHER HOLD THAT AS A TRAINED
MARTIAL ARTIST IN KENPO, I WILL TAKE UPON MYSELF ALL
OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES DEEMED SACRED TO
MY GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY, AND ASSOCIATION.
1ST BLACK BELT PLEDGE
I HOLD THAT MY TIME AND MY SKILL ARE THE ASSETS TO
MY PROFESSION, ASSETS WHICH GROW IN VALUE AS I
PROGRESS IN KENPO, UNTIL AS A THIRD DEGREE BLACK BELT
I STAND AS A FULLY QUALIFIED INSTRUCTOR. IT SHALL ALSO
BE MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT ANY INDIVIDUALS WHO
WOULD TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PERSONAL
WEAKNESSES TO DIVEST THE GULLIBLE INTO UNPROFITABLE
PATHS. TO PRESERVE THE SACRED THINGS, GOD, FAMILY,
AND COUNTRY, I PLEDGE MY ALL.
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Ah. Thank you.
I stand corrected. The school I went to doesn't use them. There was 1 shorter one that the kids classes did, but the adults don't do anything like that.
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I stand corrected. The school I went to doesn't use them. There was 1 shorter one that the kids classes did, but the adults don't do anything like that.
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Rob_Broad
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #12
That would probably be the Kenpo Creed
Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
Kenpo Creed
I come to you with only "Karate", empty hands. I have no weapons but should I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor... should it be a matter of life or death of right or wrong then here are my weapons -- Karate -- my empty hands.
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I come to you with only "Karate", empty hands. I have no weapons but should I be forced to defend myself, my principles, or my honor... should it be a matter of life or death of right or wrong then here are my weapons -- Karate -- my empty hands.
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Hmm....actually, no.
It might be something unique to the school.... alot is.
It's got quality instructors, but, sometimes, I wonder if I can get fried at the next belt test (Beer money nights I call em).
Now that I think about it...
its sad.
I learned more from Ingmar in 10 minutes, than 6 months in classes there.
It might be something unique to the school.... alot is.
It's got quality instructors, but, sometimes, I wonder if I can get fried at the next belt test (Beer money nights I call em).
Now that I think about it...
its sad.
I learned more from Ingmar in 10 minutes, than 6 months in classes there.
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Rob_Broad
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #15
Originally posted by Kaith Rustaz
Hmm....actually, no.
It might be something unique to the school.... alot is.
It's got quality instructors, but, sometimes, I wonder if I can get fried at the next belt test (Beer money nights I call em).
Now that I think about it...
its sad.
I learned more from Ingmar in 10 minutes, than 6 months in classes there.
Ingmar is pretty cool, and he is a wealth of knowledge. You should attend Jeff Blay's camp in August, Ingmar is supposed to be at it.
Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
He is? hee hee
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Kirk
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #17
Are you a kenpo student Kaith? All this time I thought you did
like Kendo, and FMA. Am I right or wrong?
like Kendo, and FMA. Am I right or wrong?
Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
He is a student of the Renegade!
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stal0225
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #19
But it seems alot of schools have gotten away from the pledges. Not only that but alot of the discipline as well. I mean the strictness. When i first started when i was young I remember getting push-ups galore. Heck i was a smart mouth punk then. Now i watch the kids classes and the kids will yell out an answer or just start lossing attention in the middle of the instructor speaking(time & place etc.)
When I asked about this I was told that soemtimes you have to give in a little and that in this day and age parents don't put up with that.
Not sure.... maybe a little off topic here.
Later
p.s. My school doesn't do the pledges either. Heck after they where posted i copied them out and want to memorize them myself.
When I asked about this I was told that soemtimes you have to give in a little and that in this day and age parents don't put up with that.
Not sure.... maybe a little off topic here.
Later
p.s. My school doesn't do the pledges either. Heck after they where posted i copied them out and want to memorize them myself.
Robbo
Purple Belt
Why don't you start a thread with that idea in mind? The one about losing discipline in this day and age.
Rob
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