Naihanchi opening sequence bunkai

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I am curious if any of you are familiar with an application like this. What is the risk:reward to a technique like this, i.e. how quickly and effectively can you apply this technique in a real time situation?

I like the idea, but it seems very technical to execute effectively without risking getting hit in the process.

 

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This is Isshin Ryu. Very effective bunkai. Not the easiest thing to master. Not the only bunkai for the opening of this kata, but I like it.
 
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I understand, it is not the only bunkai, nothing rarely is.. .

I was hoping some of you would be familiar with this particular technique, and verify that it is in fact useful. I practiced it with some advanced belts last night, and it definitely works well! My concern was how effective could I expect it to become with practice.

We started extremely slowly, as it puts a great deal of stress on the knee, without the other person realizing it.

Thanks for the input Bill!
 

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I understand, it is not the only bunkai, nothing rarely is.. .

I was hoping some of you would be familiar with this particular technique, and verify that it is in fact useful. I practiced it with some advanced belts last night, and it definitely works well! My concern was how effective could I expect it to become with practice.

We started extremely slowly, as it puts a great deal of stress on the knee, without the other person realizing it.

Thanks for the input Bill!

I am familiar with it. I do not practice it precisely that way, but in general, the subtle knee pressure is found in other katas as well, in the more advanced bunkai that I've been shown. I'm not master of it, so it's hard to comment on how effective it might be in a 'real' situation; I'm just not in a position to make that kind of statement. I *think* it would be useful, but that's just the opinion of a relative newbie.

I actually like a slightly different movement out of the same opening sequence; the step over conceals a killer of a kick to the shin with the ball of the foot. As one steps across, the angle of the foot being lifted is such that it fits into an aggressor's shin just beautifully. Try that sometime and see what you think.

Works like this. Opponent is in 'bully mode' meaning they are in your face/space. You do the little knee-bend shown here with the two hands down over the groin area, then sort of casually step across (to the left in the standard Isshin Ryu Naihanchi kata). That step over, your right foot is turned at a slight angle such that the pinky toe is closer to the floor than the big toe, if you can imagine that. The toes curl back (we practice this constantly in the dojo to be able to deliver kicks like this) and the ball of the foot right under the big toe is extended into the opponent's shin in a glancing blow maybe six inches up from the floor. The stepping foot continues on; the kick is a 'in the way, pardon me' kind of kick, meaning you don't camp on it or really try to shove it in there. It just smacks the shin as it goes by. If you do it with a smooth snapping motion, it's almost impossible to see to an outside observer, but boy oh boy does the bad guy feel it. I have seen it knock someone completely to the floor, just with that little kick.

I really enjoyed seeing what the karateka in the video was doing with his knees in this kata. I have not done that part in Naihanchi, but as I said, we do it in other kata, and I think it really works well, but it's so subtle. Hard to get it right and make it natural though.

As Karate Kid's Mister Miyagi said, "If do right, no defense."
 
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Thanks Bill! It's these types of conversations that keep me coming back to MT. I really like how effective the technique is with such little effort. It is the entry that I was concerned with, i.e. how do I close the gap and get the footing right without leaving opportunity to get hit in the process.

I will continue to invest time working on this technique. Thank you again.
 

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I like his explanations, and I think the ideas are solid behind it. To be honest, it is one of the better naihanchi/tekki bunkai I have ever seen. I also like the way he describes how a kata is telling him things. Simple way of describing the relationship between kata and actual self defense. The kata isn't set in stone, it is simply making you aware of the possibilities.

That being said, I think that rotating on the heel in order to place your foot on the opponent's foot is unrealistic. I think a much better way to get your foot on their would be to lift your entire good and "stomp" down onto it. It also seems a tiny bit too specific to be self defense capable.

There are my 2 cents. You can keep them if you want.

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