Yeah oh for sure, well said. And I guess when people don't have a frame of reference they can't really explain the experience to anyone in a coherent way, and many I'm sure just sort of forget about it, even if it was truly profound. Dr David Hawkins couldn't speak about his to anyone for about 30 years haha.This is exactly the modus operandi of Rinzai Zen. One works deeply on a koan (basically thinking about it all the time, trying to rationalise it somehow) and sits in meditation with the koan thinking or counting breaths or in silence. On top of this is hard physical work weather that be cleaning, scrubbing brushing, chopping firewood, gardening and even martial arts training (swordsmanship and archery being the most popular). This intense mental and physical exertion eventually places you in a state of fragile meditative absorption (samadhi) ready to be snapped out of one’s delusional state by the intervention of one’s roshi or some random stimuli.
I’m fairly certain that this happens to people by accident in their everyday lives while they’re totally unaware of the defined ‘Zen process‘ or even their shift of perception. There will be members on this forum to whom this has happened. Why aren‘t we aware of these people? They seldom talk about it and recognising it is a bit of a skill.
But I've learned not to chase these experiences, that's what really, really messes you up, and you end up becoming an addict chasing highs. They come and go. Can't find the exact quote, but Adyashanti says something along the lines of it's not true that the experience has left you, that isn't it true that some part of that is still here now. Something about it never really left you, and to be aware of that fragrance that it left.