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@Dirty DogSo I am going to be a senior in College next year. I am a 4th dan and am the head coach for my schools tkd club. I want to certify some students next year with Kukkiwon for 1st Dan. How do I do that including what forms to fill out and steps to take?
When did that Tcon account go into effect? I've never done this.Currently Kukkiwon requires all certifying instructors must take the master and examiner course. After that your students will need to create a Tcon account. After that you can fill out the recommender form for their 1st dan with their Tcon ID and send it in with payment to get their certificate.
They started rolling it out in 2022 and have been enforcing it pretty much since the start of last year. If you make a Tcon account all of your credentials from your pre-tcon certificates should show up on your profile.When did that Tcon account go into effect? I've never done this.
Got my 1st degree in 2015, 2nd in 2016, and 3rd in 2018.
It is mainly focused at 4th Dan and above so they can continue to 'officially' certify students.When did that Tcon account go into effect? I've never done this.
Got my 1st degree in 2015, 2nd in 2016, and 3rd in 2018.
How were you able to go from 1st degree to 2nd degree in <12 months?When did that Tcon account go into effect? I've never done this.
Got my 1st degree in 2015, 2nd in 2016, and 3rd in 2018.
It was not less than 12 months. 2015 and 2016 are a year apart, or...12 months.How were you able to go from 1st degree to 2nd degree in <12 months?
Okay. The question is the same. How did you test for 2nd Dan in one year?It was not less than 12 months. 2015 and 2016 are a year apart, or...12 months.
Depending on the dates you select in each year, you might be looking at a couple of hours (i.e. December 31st, 2015 to January 1st, 2016) or you may be looking at over 23 months (i.e. January 1st, 2015 to December 31st, 2016).
I took both tests in June, so they were roughly a year apart. (Or =12 months, not < or >).
How not? The KKW standard is one year per grade. So one year 1st to 2nd, two for 2nd to 3rd, etc.Okay. The question is the same. How did you test for 2nd Dan in one year?
I learn something new everyday.How not? The KKW standard is one year per grade. So one year 1st to 2nd, two for 2nd to 3rd, etc.
One year per current grade minimum to next grade (in KKW).Okay. The question is the same. How did you test for 2nd Dan in one year?
I was not aware of the change. We have always done per the forwarding Dan. Two years for 2nd, three for 3rd Dan and so on.How not? The KKW standard is one year per grade. So one year 1st to 2nd, two for 2nd to 3rd, etc.
It's been this way as long as I've been a Dan holder. To my knowledge, it's always been this way. Can one of our more experienced KKW folks say if it has always been this way, or if not, around when it changed?I was not aware of the change. We have always done per the forwarding Dan. Two years for 2nd, three for 3rd Dan and so on.
KKW is certainly devaluing the Dan ranks.
2nd Dan in one year? Nope.
That's a dojo requirement, not KKW. The KKW has pretty much always been one year per current rank.I was not aware of the change. We have always done per the forwarding Dan. Two years for 2nd, three for 3rd Dan and so on.
KKW is certainly devaluing the Dan ranks.
2nd Dan in one year? Nope.
Well, I had to laugh at that. I am Not blowing my horn, but with the exception of possibly @DirtyDog (and would need that confirmed), I imagine in am one of the more tenured KKW people on this site or most others. I have been with Kukkiwon since 1982, so no young buck with them, and have been training TKD (and other styles) for 45 years.It's been this way as long as I've been a Dan holder. To my knowledge, it's always been this way. Can one of our more experienced KKW folks say if it has always been this way, or if not, around when it changed?
@Dirty Dog @andyjeffries
'Dojang' but yeah, that is my understanding as well.That's a dojo requirement, not KKW. The KKW has pretty much always been one year per current rank.
This is minimum time-in-grade, not a guarantee. I was teaching class 15+ hours per week during this time. Including my classes, that's 20+ mat hours per week. So in 1 year, I amassed around 1000 mat hours. Your average student going to class 2 days per week is going to amass 100 hours in that time.Such a short time to 2nd Dan really sully's the accomplishment to me and speaks Loudly of an extreme limitation in the curriculum, especially in the howto's of teaching (this goes far beyond knowing 'how' to do a form or drill). And for the vast majority of people, there is a time needed after 1st Dan for maturation and 'settling down' after the hard chase into the Dan ranks. Some people really let off the gas after 1st Dan testing and need time to get back on the horse.
Fully agree that you were an outlier. There will always be people in both categories.This is minimum time-in-grade, not a guarantee. I was teaching class 15+ hours per week during this time. Including my classes, that's 20+ mat hours per week. So in 1 year, I amassed around 1000 mat hours. Your average student going to class 2 days per week is going to amass 100 hours in that time.
There was definitely not a limitation of curriculum. In fact, my criticism of the school has been the opposite. In order to go from 1st to 2nd degree, I need to take 2 intermediate tests (we called them "gups", so I had get 1st dan, 1st gup then 1st dan, 2nd gup before I could test for 2nd dan). As for the curriculum? Here's what I needed to learn at 1st dan in order to advance to 2nd dan:
Most people at my school took 2-3 years to go from 1st to 2nd. I was an outlier in getting there in 1 year. Same thing for black belts. It took a minimum of 2.5 years to get black belt. I actually got it in under 2, again because I was putting in 20+ hours per week. Most people took 3-5. I passed up a lot of folks on my way to black belt.
- Punch Combos #9-15
- Kick Combos #9-15
- Jump Kick Combos #7-10
- Koryo
- Koryo Il-Jang (my Master's in-house variation of Koryo)
- Keumgang
- Sword Form 1
- Nunchaku #1-10
- Escrima #1-5
- Punch Defense #1-5