Suffragettes were learning jiu jitsu much earlier. Weren’t they?
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It could be. But I feel much of it comes from external sources and the instructor's base personality.
Well to this day you still have senseis from Japan and Korea who move to the USA and who open up dojos in the USA.
Even if they were expats, the point is that they were originally from Japan. They were born in Japan and grew up in Japan. Therefore I would figure they would teach the same way they would as if they were in Japan.
Do they do it in sets or do they do the entire 500 press ups and sit ups non stop? Its not uncommon for people to run 10 miles non stop, marathon runners run 26 miles non stop, but I've never heard of anybody doing 500 press ups and 500 sit ups non stop, without doing them in sets.
It's in sets. They alternate between pushups, situps, and kicks until the 500/500/1000 is reached.
At face value, this is a very true statement. But... I'm also sure that you've correctly guessed that in an environment where this is asked of their students, they're also very tough on the students when it comes to their karate. Paying people money to treat you like a child gets old after awhile. Well... for some, it doesn't (probably because they're not aware that something different is out there).
That is more push-ups than I can do by a lot. 10 mile run? Not a chance I can do that. Kicks and sit ups I can do. That sounds really tough, I’m impressed by those standards. Any idea what the pass/ fail ratio is?
I meant as part of a grading!
In any scenario I’m not up to that in my current state.
That is true, but I don’t think he was speaking of Japanese immigrants when he said they were impersonating what they though Japanese instructors would do.
And I’d bet good money that most people who did that 500 push-up requirement didn’t do anything like 500 decent push-ups. I had an instructor who bragged how many he could do (as well as how quickly). While he was more fit than me, when he demonstrated his per-minute prowess, he was doing “mini-presses”.
I’d guess that’s a good part of the overall difference I’ve heard discussed here. There’s a lot I used to see (less common now) in dojos that makes much more sense if you consider that military influence.
Frankly, for a long time, the general conception of leadership by many in the US was a severe and uncompromising personality. Probably based on those examples.
This is also true. It’s worth noting that I have visited quite a few schools in several arts. None were run by Asian immigrants or ex-pats. Most were run by Americans who had trained under Americans.
Well I would think that a Japanese sensei who was born in and grew up in Japan would teach the way they would teach in Japan regardless if they're teaching in the UK, the USA, or anywhere else.
Well that's your experience. As for me, I do not know the percentage of karate instructors in the USA who are from the USA vs those who are from Japan but the point is, as I said in post #217, that I would think an instructor from Japan whose teaching in the USA would teach the way they would in Japan.
Mostly, I'll agree - their method will be an outcome of their past experience. It's likely altered some by the environment they are in (both the cultural influence on them, and the different needs/expectations of the students).
This.
