I actually do, because now all those people who defiantly thumbed their noses at tkd net have no home now. The majority of people have faded off. But the list was tired and dying anyway so I guess it doesn't matter.
"[D]efiantly thumbed their noses at tkd net"? :lol: I'm glad to see you don't take yourself too seriously, or anything
Yeah, me refusing to back up my claims with evidence. Try your best proving that one, with your "evidence". And I like the way that you don't have to offer "evidence", but I have to, that your perception, as limited as it is since you weren't on the list for all that long, has validity, but not mine. What do you want me to provide "evidence" of next, that General Choi really wasn't a 2nd Dan in Karate?
Glenn, all you have done is shown that you equate assertions with evidence. You may not realize it, but asserting something isn't the same thing as proving it (let alone even offering evidence for it), of which I'm sure you're well aware. You might want me to believe what you say, but you haven't given me any reason to do so.
I might also point out that, strictly speaking, belief and knowledge are different things so even if I did believe anything you said, absent verifiable evidence it wouldn't at all be the same thing as me knowing you were correct.
Your angry hostile posts to the contrary not withstanding.
:lol: You're the only person I know who takes amusement as a synonym for anger and hostility
My suggestion: Try getting into a few more self defense situations. Then maybe you might not be so concerned about all those left and right side scenarios.
This is your suggestion? I find this very interesting coming from a very senior martial artist. In fact, most of the martial artists I know usually suggest trying to avoid situations where having to defend yourself is a possibility. But this new teaching of yours is truly amazing. Tell me more about it. Do you often suggest it to people who happen to disagree with you?
I did read up, and also spoke with people who worked for and under President Park, people like GM Ji and GM Park, as well as people who lived in Korea when he was President. Ask most south koreans and they will tell you that President Park was a good president, the best president. But I guess you know better than them, just like you know better than me.
All I've done is read up on Korean history and talk to people from that country who lived under Park's regime, too. Like I said, it's obvious that Park modernized Korea's economy which resulted in the country experiencing economic growth. That doesn't mean he wasn't a dictator though, as I thought would be obvious to someone like you who knows so much about Korea.
Maybe not General Choi though, who President Park made leave the country for several years. I do find it interesting that you object so much to President Park because you think of him as a dictator, and yet you train in a style that was created by a dictator (General Choi) who right before he died passed his organization to North Korea and North Korea's IOC member. How does that work?
It "works" by me finding the style Gen. Choi founded to be effective for self-defense, good for general physical fitness, and enjoyable to train in.
No, by all means be who you really are.
Thanks. For a minute there I thought you were going to turn into one of those people who don't like it when they can't answer a junior's question and just fall back on throwing out how senior they are and name dropping famous martial artists to try to intimidate people into not questioning them. It's a rather clumsy tactic but one not entirely unheard of in some martial arts circles.
Actually, I said I try to answer all questions posed to me. I can't be responsible for your reaction or rejection of my response. That's your problem, not mine. But it is kind of interesting that you want me to provide "evidence" to your satisfaction, but are unwilling or unable to do the same for me. In your philosophy class, what did they call it when someone does that?
Fair enough about you "trying" to answer questions. But yes, I raterh do expect evidence when someone makes an assertion that I happen to disagree with
if they want me to take seriously their claim.
As for me not providing evidence, I am unsure of what claims I have made that you have asked evidence for that I haven't provided. Please link the specific posts you have in mind, or simply cut and paste the quotes where I have made claims and you have asked for evidence. Thanks.
I'm not worried. You do what you have to do and be who you really are.
:lol: See, you're lightening up already, brother.
I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. Most people complied willingly and freely. The ones that didn't, at least the USTU types, were defiant or rebellious not with the program types who did really negative things, which caused a lot of people to suffer. But I guess you don't really care about that, since you always ignore that point.
I don't doubt the people who complied did it willingly. I mean, after all, what could you have done to "force" them to not to? That being said, many people often willingly engage in behavior that is childish.
Actually I never did that. You did, in assuming that President Park ordered Korean born ITF members to join Kukki Taekwondo. I think President Park was concerned about bigger things than General Choi.
You compared yourself to the WTF and the Korean government intimidating ITF instructors, I didn't (but intimidation of Korean ex-pats by the KCIA isn't exactly news). If you want to say that the Korean government did that without Park's OK, that's your business. That's a stretch IMHO.
That is Dakin's story. But as usual, Dakin is misinformed. If you want, we can go through some of his article and point out all the errors. But what would be the point. No one takes his article seriously, not since the Modern History translation came out.
Oh,
Modern History is interesting, I grant you that. I just wish the translators saw fit to include all the footnotes and references because, as it is, the English translation is completely undocumented. Pity, that.
I do is tell the truth, which some people (including you) consider insulting.
Oh, nonsense :lol: I have no problem with people telling the truth. I don't find that insulting in the least. It's your belittling attitude that I don't like (and, to be honest I don't even find it "insulting" I find it a reason to feel sorry for you). There's a difference between those two things, Glenn
Actually I think it is a pretty big list that has lots of people on it that don't have to worry about posting anywhere I or my seniors don't want them to.
Thankfully they have someone like you controlling them ... I mean looking out for them
In fact, the overwhelming majority always felt like that, since it was no big deal to not post on DD. I am actually quite surprised at how many people read the list and/or forward them on to others, both nationally and internationally. Just recently I was told that the US National Poomsae Team were talking about the info on the list at the World Poomsae Championships.
Cool.
I wish I could say the same for you and your behavior.
:lol: Yes, I bet you do
Keep that sense of humor, brother.
Which one or two publications do you consider to be serious academic journals? I ask because I don't see any. And dakin's taken care of himself by fading off.
Actually, I said there is "only one or perhaps two publications that even approach anything like a serious academic journal for martial arts." That's different from them being serious academic journals.
Didn't forget, just didn't want to include parts that obviously is false. That's not a reason to get kicked off tkd net, anymore than asking one or two questions would be.
"Obviously false"? Heh, well if you say so. Pesonally I find it more and more believable as time passes
Granted it's not a hanging offense like posting to another internet list :lol:
That would be serious!
Most of the people who got kicked off of tkd net got taken off because the list members got tired of their BS, and when they left, we actively encouraged them to join DD. And Ray Terry, in his infinite foolishness, gladly took them in, thinking that every once in a while, he could count on them to flame me. But what he didn't realize was that those people had problems over and above that small benefit to him.
Let us grant the veracity of this claim for the sake of argument
How is what you did fitting behavior for a martial artist, especially one as senior such as yourself? Just curious.
Funny but that is exactly what someone said I was doing with you, giving you enough rope.
I don't doubt this at all
Yeah, General Choi already blew the lid off that one when he claimed Taekwondo was founded in April 1955, which was false by the way.
:lol:
Try reading your posts. You sound really angry and upset, which goes back to that clear pattern that DD types go through after they run out of stuff to come back with in their discussions with me. they go for the personal attack, throwing everything including the kitchen sink at me, in the hopes some of it sticks. But like I said, keep going, you make my point for me, in spite of your denials to the contrary.
Oh, I did go back and reread my posts. I don't think they come off angry or upset, but one of the problems with internet communication is people tend to read into a post what they want to or what they personally feel. Which is one of the reasons why I try to use emoticons to indicate how humorous I find many of the things you say
You're Ray Terry's brother, not mine.
:lol: Odd since we've probably had as much intereaction now that Ray and I did since I signed up for the DD in '98 or '99.
By the way, someone told me you are 29 years old and don't have a school of your own. Is that true? If so, that explains a lot. Feel free to ignore the questions if it makes you concerned or otherwise uncomfortable.
:lol: No, I'm not 29. I am not currently teaching at my own school since I'm working and in a doctoral program and raising a family. Still get in training three times a week, but I do miss teaching.
I'm sure you have a taught at your own school for many, many years which has given you a lot of insight such as the good advice you gave me about seking out more self defense situations, though. I grant you my not teaching at my own school for several years probably is what makes me a bit confused about the wisdom of that bit of advice
Peace, brother.
Chris
