Where's the dude in between getting guillotined?
He's imaginary.
If he was there, it'd save the hassle of faking the punch.
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Where's the dude in between getting guillotined?
See the gif I posted.
That gif in no way demonstrates that knockout by standing guillotine is faster than knockout by head kick.
The first guy looked like he was doing non-contact point sparring.
Second guy in the TKD dobok fought like he deserved every inch of that white belt - maybe a yellow belt would fit.
Third guy, totally got dominated - that white belt suited him even more.
I didn't see a single well executed kick throughout the video, but they did alright for beginners.
Poor example though.
No, it demonstrates how quickly you can go unconscious from even a poorly executed guillotine. And unlike the head kick, once its locked in that person is going to sleep in a very short amount of time.
You can push this to higher levels and, the results will be exactly the same unless it's a full contact karate variant like kyokushin.
Far less time than it would take for you to knock someone out with a behind the ear head kick.
Seriously you're embarrassing yourself nowYou can push this to higher levels and, the results will be exactly the same unless it's a full contact karate variant like kyokushin.
5-6 seconds (your timeframe) against a fraction of a second?
How do maths work where you are?
And, the guillotine still relies on actually getting the position in the first place (which is far more complex than a kick) and then actually getting it locked in.
So maths again - half a second to execute the kick, plus falling down time, about a second.
I'll allow everything falling into place for the guillotine and the opponent offering no resistance to getting it locked in, so let's say 1-2 seconds to apply, plus 5-6 seconds to pass out. That's 6-8 seconds.
In my version of maths, 1 is less than 6-8.
The results will only be the same if they continue to apply in the same fashion and the comparison is the same.
In that video, the boxing guy far outclassed the others. He wasn't exactly great, but they were worse.
Take that to a higher level and put a very good boxer against a mediocre 'karate' guy - yes, the boxer will very likely dominate utterly.
Go even higher and put an excellent boxer against a very good 'karateka' - again, the boxer will probably be on top.
Match the skill levels (or do the unthinkable and actually swap skill levels, which I've never seen done - probably because it'd make the boxer look bad) and the outcome will be different.
At four to five punches a second?
Seriously you're embarrassing yourself now
Show me a typical karate students then ? You must have one in mind to make this comparison ?What?
If you think the typical karate student is up to par with a standard boxing student, you're the one embarrassing yourself.
You really are making yourself look silly.....a boxer can beat a karate guy and karate guy can beat a boxer. It all depends on a number of different factors including pure luck. There's only one place where a boxer is guaranteed to always against a karate guy...and that's a boxing ring anywhere else it's impossible to knowWhat?
If you think the typical karate student is up to par with a standard boxing student, you're the one embarrassing yourself.
The choke was established from the opening of the assailant's attack. Are we now changing the situation with the second person throwing a perfect fantasy head kick at the exact same time as their friend rushing in for a tackle?
Show me a typical karate students then ? You must have one in mind to make this comparison ?
So you have estabished that he, they are typical how ?
I can do a kick to an opponent's leg hard enough to bend their knee backwards in well under a second, and I don't have to lay on the floor (in all that glass) to do it.
Go on, say I'm wrong.
You're wrong because even professional fighters are unable to accomplish that feat on a regular basis.
So you've purposefully gone and looked for the worst videos you can find....nice reasoning..
The situation is based on the posted videos being one on one.
So let's say we've agreed to fight, the preamble is out of the way and it's time.
I'm going to be doing everything I can to maintain my preferred range of 4-6 feet.
Exactly how are you establishing a standing guillotine on me? Magic?
So let's now say you try to shoot for a dlt from that range - if I can't sidestep or get over the top and introducing you to my knee is such fantasy, then I guess you're in a great position for me to guillotine in return. But because it takes so damn long to have any effect and you might actually have a knife within range of your two completely unrestricted arms it's my very last option.
Ive seen lots a bjj take downs FAIL, so its far from impossible to not get taken downHow about you go to a Bjj or MMA gym with a recording device and challenge them to take you down. If you can avoid their takedowns via what you're saying here, you'll be a very wealthy man.
But we both know you're not going to do that dont we?