I know. I suspect that in this case the guy is just not bringing his affiliation with Toshindo to the attention of Hatsumi or the shihans when he visits Japan. Unless things have changed, the Bujinkan doesn’t exactly have a cadre of enforcers checking to make sure foreign students are playing by the rules.
The problem is there are just too many missing elements in the form.
This is part of the discussion that gets more subjective, IMO. The ROI for most of us includes more than direct fighting/defensive application. I added kata to my curriculum not because I thought they taught good technique (for grappling, especially, I don't see how they could), but because I found many students enjoyed the challenge of working on them, they make a good warm-up routine that also lets me correct movement principles, and they give me some reference points for other work. I doubt they do any of that more efficiently (time-wise) than separate tools might, but they are among the few tools I found that give all of those options for use.
If they are hidden in there, what use is it?
This would be a good example of someone with knowledge finding a useful movement in a kata. So, if you were teaching Long Fist, you could include that bit of teaching, using that kata movement as a reference point, though it's probably not what that movement was originally intended for. The kata becomes a handy reference for movement, but still requires your (the instructor's) knowledge to get to how to use those movements.
Be that as it may, if it's not disclosed ("hidden"), then it's not doing students any good. And if someone finds a new use for a movement from kata, I don't see that as something "hidden" in the kata. It's jut something new (to them) someone figured out that happens to use a movement present in a kata.
Sometime we may give too much credit to the original form creator. The following is one of my favor jokes.
I can explain why it matters...Let's review, since you insist on being snarky about it ...
You started this thread by posting a 12 minute video (that you obviously watched) just so you could talk about how terrible what they were doing was. That seems like a huge waste of time and effort to me. I didn't even have to bother watching it to look them up and find out that they were under Stephen Hayes. That means that I wouldn't care for most of what they were doing, so I was done in about a minute. (No, that WASN'T what she said!)
I am perfectly relaxed, thanks for worrying about me. I never insinuated that you or anyone else might ever feel a need to write a research paper about this topic or any other. I merely gave my opinion (since you said we were all giving our opinions) that I didn't understand why you (or anyone else) would find this subject worth so much effort. Seems like a grand waste of time to me when there are so many more interesting things to discuss.
I was merely expressing my opinion, as I made sure and pointed out. I was hoping someone could explain to me why it mattered, but I guess I shall remain in the dark on this subject. This is not a problem as it was only minor curiosity, and I've already expended more effort in this thread than it merits, in my opinion.
One application that I have figured out myself from my form is to
I know this is a reference but cant quite place it. Animal house?
I don't always understand what you mean, but I always like the way you say it!
Long story short. The videos got me in trouble along with me asking questions in an effort to learn more about some of the traditional non fighting aspects of Kung Fu. I was kicked out of the school. True quote about the direction of my training and teaching "I focus too much of fighting." It's an odd thing to say to someone who trains how to use kung fu for self-defense. It's also a historical preservation as well. I'm not just learning how to fight but I'm also preserving the functionality of an "ancient" fighting system.
Yep. But all of that is in the past now.
Wait, your JOWGa school actually kicked you out for posting those sparring videos? What the hell man.
