What is EDC folding knives for?

[Dirty Dog1]

I specifically talked about Spyderco as in my first post. This is my opinion from practicing. YES, a lot of knives are expensive because of the names like handbags and jewelry.

And some are expensive because they are just better.

I question why people pay a lot for something they have to conceal carry and nobody notice?

Where did you come up with the idea that anyone has to conceal?

I am not objecting about showing off of luxury items, but who to showoff if you have to conceal it?

Again, where did you get this "have" to conceal idea?

You know when the blade is too hard, it's BRITTLE?

When did anybody say anything about hardness? Hard and brittle are two different things, in the blade making world. Hardness is resistance to deformation. Brittleness is the tendency to chip rather than bend.

I never said just because it's expensive, then it's no good. I said you can get good ones for cheap also. I listed something that to me is very important in my first post, if the expensive ones have those, it's all good. I just named Spyderco as an example that is expensive and LOUSY. I have 2 of my friends carrying that!!!

You think Spyderco is an expensive knife? I'm so sorry.

Like I said in the last post, why spend money on things that you have to conceal?

Again, this is entirely in your head.

Also, I do test the hardness of the blade by wacking the thick side of two blades on each other to look at the dent made to judge how hard it is.

And this is your idea of science, is it? To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not it means what you think it does."

 

[drop bear102]

China is definitely doing some great strides in good cheap knives in good steel.

 

[Alan0354]

And some are expensive because they are just better.

Where did you come up with the idea that anyone has to conceal?

Again, where did you get this "have" to conceal idea?

When did anybody say anything about hardness? Hard and brittle are two different things, in the blade making world. Hardness is resistance to deformation. Brittleness is the tendency to chip rather than bend.

You think Spyderco is an expensive knife? I'm so sorry.

Again, this is entirely in your head.

And this is your idea of science, is it? To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not it means what you think it does."

You can open carry without being harass by police? You live in scaresly populated area? In big cities, I am sure you'll get harass even though it's legal to open carry.!!!

You really have to research, hardness and brittle goes hand in hand, that's no way out of it. You don't want to get a blade that is very hard.

I guess I did take for granted that I know how to sharpen knives, forming edges, that even if you have a cheaper knife with softer steel, I can sharpen them any time I want. I guess if one doesn't know how to sharpen edges, a harder blade that can maintain the edge longer does have the advantage.

BUT, even hard blade do need to be sharpened once a while. If anyone is into knives, they should learn how to sharpen knives.

I guess if one can open carry, then it might be important to get fancy expansive knives to show off. I am not against showing off, just not if I have to hide it and nobody sees it.

 

[Same Trick48]

And some are expensive because they are just better.

Where did you come up with the idea that anyone has to conceal?

Again, where did you get this "have" to conceal idea?

When did anybody say anything about hardness? Hard and brittle are two different things, in the blade making world. Hardness is resistance to deformation. Brittleness is the tendency to chip rather than bend.

You think Spyderco is an expensive knife? I'm so sorry.

Again, this is entirely in your head.

And this is your idea of science, is it? To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not it means what you think it does."

Isn’t the inherent nature of a folding knife aka pocket knife when it’s folded concealment ?

If it’s legal to openly carry knives, and one want to for looks show it off, why even carry a folding knife ? a regular sheathed knife can show at least the doubble amount of bling

 

[Alan0354]

Isn’t the inherent nature of a folding knife aka pocket knife when it’s folded concealment ?

If it’s legal to openly carry knives, and one want to for looks show it off, why even carry a folding knife ? a regular sheathed knife can show at least the doubble amount of bling

I guess people open carry in some remote towns, I have no idea. I live in the bayarea, open carry is a no-no. I can understand for open carry, some people like to show off the knife and I don't blame them.

As for me, a knife is a TOOL, like hammer, crowbar etc. Why put diamonds on a hammer?!!!! I literally carry it for emergency situation, being a crowbar is one of the requirement!!!

I put what I feel are important in the first 2 posts of this thread, see whether you agree or not.

 

[drop bear102]

Isn’t the inherent nature of a folding knife aka pocket knife when it’s folded concealment ?

If it’s legal to openly carry knives, and one want to for looks show it off, why even carry a folding knife ? a regular sheathed knife can show at least the doubble amount of bling

 

[Same Trick48]

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[Gyakuto102]

Isn’t the inherent nature of a folding knife aka pocket knife when it’s folded concealment ?

If it’s legal to openly carry knives, and one want to for looks show it off, why even carry a folding knife ? a regular sheathed knife can show at least the doubble amount of bling

Like this?

 

[Gyakuto102]

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That looks like fun!

 

[drop bear102]

You can get some good concealable fixed blade knives for self defence for cheap these days.

Here is one I kind of want.

 

[drop bear102]

It sounds like a very obvious and funny question. I talked on other forums few years back when I was so into pocket knives and I was really surprised the knives people chose.

To me, pocket knives are for:
1) Self defense.
2) Survival in difficult situation like in car accident that you have to cut and ply yourself out of the jam.
3) Emergency situation where you need to cut something on the spot.

But from the knives people choose, it actually feels like it's a fashion, like handbags, ear rings or some decorate items. I can give one simple example. One popular knife brand is Spyderco, some are expensive, looks unique. BUT if you analyze the knife, to me, IT'S A PIECE OF $HIT, for essential life saving purpose.
1) Has a big hole at the bottom of the blade that makes it a weak point. I've seen they broke right at that point when they just ply anything. I even saw someone drop and broke the blade on youtube.
2) There is no finger protection if you use it for shanking(thrusting straight into the body of the opponent.) You need a longer protrusion at the bottom to keep the knife from being shoved into your hand like the picture.

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I heard a lot of talking like "Oh, I use it to cut food, open boxes, open envelopes and all that. WHY? you have food knives, or box cutters for those. To me, EDC is for Self defense and survival in emergency situation.

I own a lot of folding knives, The ones that passed my test are all not expensive and they definitely good for self defense and survival.

Just want to hear from others.

Have you looked at the ontario rat?

Very popular budget folder.

 

[Gyakuto102]

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[Gyakuto102]

Best fixed blade? This one!

 

[Dirty Dog1]

Isn’t the inherent nature of a folding knife aka pocket knife when it’s folded concealment ?

Maybe. If you want to.

If it’s legal to openly carry knives, and one want to for looks show it off, why even carry a folding knife ? a regular sheathed knife can show at least the doubble amount of bling

Fixed or folded, the blade is covered.

 

[Dirty Dog1]

You can open carry without being harass by police?

Yes.

You live in scaresly populated area?

No.

In big cities, I am sure you'll get harass even though it's legal to open carry.!!!

Your certainty does not mean you are correct.

You really have to research, hardness and brittle goes hand in hand, that's no way out of it.

I have been making knives and swords for some 30 years, although medical issues have really reduced how much I can do these days. I'm pretty confident that I understand the difference between hard and brittle.

 

[Alan0354]

Have you looked at the ontario rat?

Very popular budget folder.

Looks pretty good.

 

[Alan0354]

Yes.

No.

Your certainty does not mean you are correct.

I have been making knives and swords for some 30 years, although medical issues have really reduced how much I can do these days. I'm pretty confident that I understand the difference between hard and brittle.

Well, look it up, hard and brittle goes together for steel. You might find some exotic metal blades, that' beyond my knowledge.

You live in city and you open carry?

 

[Alan0354]

Have you looked at the ontario rat?

Very popular budget folder.

This one fits what I am looking for mentioned in the first two posts. But I have enough already. I am not exactly looking for new ones, just talking. You can see the flipper button area is robust, blade is thick enough and have enough hand protection. It's a winner.

 

[Same Trick48]

Like this?
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That looks as something from the kitchen drawer, potato peeler ?

What I mean a regular sheathed knife for looks is about the hilt and the holster. The blade is a blade, doesn’t need to look Sci-fi .



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[Alan0354]

Like this?
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Looks like this one, but this one is a folding. IT's too big for me. It's very heavy duty, more like way over kill, but it's good.

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