Was Rokas wrong about bujinkan?

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another rokas thread!

why does anyone care what he thinks about anything at all ?

he does seem to have built a successful you tube channel out of changing his mind a lot, he isnt getting a hit off me
 

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another rokas thread!

why does anyone care what he thinks about anything at all ?

he does seem to have built a successful you tube channel out of changing his mind a lot, he isnt getting a hit off me

It is called being swayed by evidence.

It is how scientific method works. And is the difference between a practical skill and a belief system.

In this case there was no evidence to be swayed by so his mind wasn't changed.
So even if you don't care about what he thinks. It doesn't matter here.

Either the evidence was there to refute him or it wasn't.
 

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It is called being swayed by evidence.

It is how scientific method works.

In this case there was no evidence to be swayed by so his mind wasn't changed.
So even if you don't care about what he thinks. It doesn't matter here.

Either the evidence was there to refute him or it wasn't.
the scientific method doesn't involve any swaying at all
 

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the scientific method doesn't involve any swaying at all
Only in Jobo world.

For everyone else there is a hypothesis and then an experiment.

So you have an idea. Then test that idea and then have a different idea once you analyse the results.

Which is being swayed by evidence.
 

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Only in Jobo world.

For everyone else there is a hypothesis and then an experiment.

So you have an idea. Then test that idea and then have a different idea once you analyse the results.

Which is being swayed by evidence.
there no swaying mate, you find a picture gram that includes swaying and il concede

you do know what swaying means i take it
 

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For what it's worth I dropped him an email to say he'd be very welcome to come train with us in London if/when he's ever in town
 

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For what it's worth I dropped him an email to say he'd be very welcome to come train with us in London if/when he's ever in town
And not had a response after a week
 

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Do you spar or roll or do live training though?

What would you be doing on the day?
In general class we train drills and do specific sparring only. Ie exercises to train specific techniques & adaptions under pressure/resistance
I’m not a fan of free sparring for a bunch of reasons, but I and any of our more experienced folk will roll with anyone
 

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In general class we train drills and do specific sparring only. Ie exercises to train specific techniques & adaptions under pressure/resistance
I’m not a fan of free sparring for a bunch of reasons, but I and any of our more experienced folk will roll with anyone

You know all you technically need to do is show a video of that.
 

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Yeah - any videos I’ve taken have been technical - this is the closest thing I’ve got kicking around
When we’re back training again I’ll maybe post some
But actually I think Rokas wants free sparring evidence
I did send him a video of a Bujinkan shihan in an MMA match, but I suspect he saw this an outlier and only really evidence of someone who cross trains (which is right probably)
 

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Only in Jobo world.

For everyone else there is a hypothesis and then an experiment.

So you have an idea. Then test that idea and then have a different idea once you1. Identify problem or question analyse the results.

Which is being swayed by evidence.
The basic steps of the scientific method. I learned them back in about 7th grade. One of the most valuable things I ever learned. Too bad more people don't learn it and apply it to life. ;)
 

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Well, his assessments of the systems that he scrutinizes do reflect a consensus in the martial arts community. There are videos all over YouTube and articles all over Google that put aikido and bujinkan under the microscope, but you don't see people questioning the legitimacy of boxing or BJJ.

For better or for worse, whatever our reputation is, we did something to earn it.
 
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